Oh, I just love that.

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the love hour. I'm your host, Miss Kevin on stage. And I am joined by my husband and co host, the Kevin on stage, I'm investing that up here lately, but I got it together.

I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. The person. I don't get it. Okay. I should be saying stuff. Okay, got it. So we are essentially closing out our infertility series, which again, I was so honored to be able to talk to all of my guests. And we have another doctor, her name is Dr. Cindy Duke.

Thank you so much for joining us today. Dr. Cindy, do you want Dr. Cindy or Dr. Duke? Dr. Cindy's fine. Dr. Cindy. Okay. Dr. Cindy, I will give you the space to introduce yourself to the people that may be unfamiliar with you.

I will thank you both of you. Hello, hello, love our podcast world. So I'm Dr. Cindy Duke. I'm a board certified Johns Hopkins and Yale trained obstetrician gynecologist and fertility specialist who's also a virologist by training. I based in Las Vegas, Nevada.

I am the founding physician medical director and laboratory director of the Nevada fertility institutes here in Las Vegas for the past four years.

I'm also an advocate for women's health, educating women, educating women of color about their bodies, their health, and particularly passionate about fertility, not just infertility, but fertility.

And how we preserve it and how we teach everyone, including our younger people coming up, how to better take control of their fertility and their goals as they go through life.

Oh, that was really great. Thank you for that introduction and immediately spawned a question for me. How, how do you define.

And I think this is really for my own information, the differences between infertility and fertility. Like I have my own definition, but I've even in this series, I kind of struggled with what to name it because in some regards, I feel like infertility could be a little insensitive, but I feel like it's also appropriate.

But is fertility not an accurate way to represent some of the struggles that are associated with this. So I kind of struggled with that. So can you give us your definition.

Well, I want to define fertility as one's inherent ability to create future progeny or future children.

And so fertility refers to periods if we're talking about a woman or a girl, we're talking about your periods, your ovaries, your uterus, the structures.

It refers to the psychology of it. It refers to things that are straightforward as the birds and the bees because it all falls under the umbrella of fertility in fertility.

Yes, for some people, the term can really stab like a tree.

I think it's because it tends to be associated with a longstanding taboo that suggests it's a failure on the part of the person if they're infertile.

And it goes all the way back to biblical times. Infertility is in the Bible fertility is all over the Bible.

But definitely infertility comes with so much taboo, so much baggage that it's hard for people to hear it and continue listening.

That said, it is a medical term. It is a disease. And I think it's important that we explain that it's a disease because many people think infertility is a state of mind where if you just fix your mindset, you're not infertile.

But that's not true. It's a disease with a very defined disease pattern and a definition for how you diagnose it.

So infertility as a disease tends to be defined based on women. And we look at women specifically age 35 as the demarcation point.

So if you're under 35 and you're a woman and you've been having unprotected regular heterosexual intercourse for a year for 12 months, meaning having relations every other day for a year around the time of ovulation.

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