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125: Part 2: Jack Barsky Lives Deep Undercover as a KGB Spy in America

Game of Crimes

Game of Crimes

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🗓️ 5 December 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

From behind the Iron Curtain, Jack Barsky (not his original name) went from living in communism to operating inside capitalism against the main enemy of the Soviet Union—the United States of America. He was recruited by the KGB and spent five years being trained before coming to the USA and spying for the next ten years as an illegal rezident. Eventually, he ‘resigned’ from the KGB and thought he had put his covert past behind him until the FBI showed up one day.

According to his website JackBarksy.com, “ Jack is a law-abiding patriotic American citizen who is taking advantage of one last chance to live a normal life.”

Check out his book “Deep Undercover: My Secret Life and Tangled Allegiances as a KGB Spy in America”.

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0:49.5

officer then or just up to your hand? Yeah, exactly.

0:53.0

There was just really nobody else.

0:56.3

There was not even a hint that I was being introduced to somebody who I could have who really didn't have any competency

1:07.2

other than just talking to me so there was nothing there.

1:11.1

Well, so you're going to, I mean, so you're, obviously there's a lot of reasons why you're

1:16.2

you're going, using different covers and different trips to get into the United States.

1:21.4

So kind of let everybody know it sounds like you

1:23.7

know spy versus spy we're trying to catch people but there's a there's a

1:26.7

fundamental reason to why you're making all of these cutouts all of these different

1:30.5

trips. What was it that was most important that you were trying

1:33.7

to protect for your new cover identity Jack Barsky to get you into the country to

1:38.1

where you didn't have this trail following you? The reason and again I put this all together nobody ever really explained

1:46.7

reasons to me and this was they shared with me what they thought the only only the things that I should know to be

1:57.6

a capably operational and that you know, because compartmentalization was huge in the KGB.

2:07.0

But that was also counterproductive because when, as you were operated as a lone wolf and you got to make human decisions and you don't have a good

2:15.7

foundation to make the right decision, you're going to make mistakes.

2:20.8

This I piece together in in hindsight for me to wind up in the United States without possibly being traced back to Moscow.

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