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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

121: Unabridged Interview: Esau McCaulley

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy

4.8556 Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2023

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

This is our unabridged interview with Esau McCaulley. What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” When he was asked to give the eulogy at his father’s funeral, Esau was sparked to examine his own childhood and dig into his family’s past. In the process, he engaged with the complexity of US history, and its impact on some of the most important questions of our time. In this episode, Esau discusses what he uncovered, and, careful not to generalize, describes what the experience taught him about race, faith, and the culture of the South in the United States. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho White Too Long: Robert Jones Resources mentioned this episode How Far to the Promised Land by Esau McCaulley PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, friends, Lee Seacamp here. If you enjoy the kinds of conversations we have here on

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Noseful Endeavor about ideas, culture, and how we might make sense of the world, there's another

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daily news podcast, and each weekday, Mike takes about 30 minutes to examine the stories shaping

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our moment. What makes the show interesting

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is that it resists the usual partisan scripts. Mike brings on economists, historians, journalists,

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and other thinkers to look at issues from multiple angles. One day he might unpack the dynamics

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of a major political story. Another day, he might explore the psychology behind public outrage

0:36.7

or while we humans are so quick to believe strange things.

0:40.6

Mike's an award-winning journalist whose work has appeared in an outlets like The Atlantic, the free press, and the Washington Post.

0:45.9

His approach combines careful reporting with a sharp sense of humor and a willingness to question assumptions wherever they come from.

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If you're someone who likes thoughtful

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inquiry and conversations that challenge easy answers, give the gist a listen. You can find the

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better shape and relocated to a box fresh new place with room to grow and a mortgage to suit.

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