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🗓️ 11 March 2021
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Hiding--many addicts do it. It’s what keeps them locked in prisons of guilt and shame. It’s how they convince even themselves that they don’t have a problem. It’s the very thing that prevents them from getting the help that they so desperately need.
Today’s guest, Wanja Joy, has experience with hiding. She hid her alcohol addiction from everyone in her life. Even after she reached out for help and started seeing a therapist, she hid her struggle with alcohol from him.
However, today she is the host of Wanja on Air: Actions in Recovery. On her podcast, she shares her story of struggling with alcohol and how she used it to cover up. She tells how she eventually overcame her guilt, shame, and perfectionism and reached out for help. Wanja changed her life and now brings that change to others.
Wanja is just a genuine spirit who wants to bring joy to other people, so tune in to hear our incredible conversation about her story of recovery.
In this episode, you will hear:
Key Quotes:
[04:05] - “My mom is a teacher and I'm her daughter, and we weren't given an option to do things like reading. It was not an option to have good grades. Those things were not optional. So when I ended up in the height of my disease, I realized that I was actually brewing perfectionism from a very young age.”
[05:33] - “Way before I picked up a substance, I did have a disease of perception... it was all made in my mind and it started really young.”
[08:29] - “And in my mind, when growing up and everything else in between, I just thought alcohol is a liquid and you could have it or leave it. But at some point, for me, I was obsessive about it. And I knew that wasn’t normal. So my choice was, at the time with this mind of mine that plants a seed and blows it up, I'm just going to hide it.”
[13:01] - “I was in such denial that I actually believed my own lies.”
[19:24] - “But somehow I had this mind that was made up that I needed to do certain things at certain times. And I felt like I was being delayed because now I'm setting my degree later than I wanted to and so I have to catch up.”
[30:17] - “I was really vigilant about feeding my alcoholism. So now I started feeding my recovery at the same rate. It started being beautiful but it wasn’t at the beginning.”
[36:25] - “So many times I think so many of us can get lost that we don't realize we're like everybody else. We all have these fears and insecurities and shame and sometimes trauma. And if we share our story, I think it helps so many more people and to mitigate that suffering.”
[42:15] - “We can get addicted to stress without even knowing, to a core belief without even knowing.”
Supporting Resources:
Wanja on AiR (Actions in Recovery) podcast
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0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. |
0:10.8 | My name is Dwayne Australin, and I'm your host, and we are on to episode 121. |
0:17.6 | So today's guest is WANJA Joy, and she is the host of the WANJA on air, |
0:24.7 | Actions in Recovery podcast, and she shares her story of struggling with alcohol and how she |
0:33.3 | used it to cover up, eventually overcoming her own shame, guilt, perfectionism to reach out |
0:43.1 | for help and change her life and then bring that change to others. |
0:49.4 | Had a great time talking with WANJA. |
0:52.8 | She is just a genuine spirit and really wants to bring joy to other people. |
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1:34.6 | Let's go ahead and start this episode. |
1:40.7 | Hello, everyone. |
1:42.0 | Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. My guest today is WANJA Joy, and her podcast is Wanda on air, |
1:52.5 | and she is going to talk about her story and her story of recovery. Wanda, you want to introduce |
1:59.1 | yourself? Yes, thanks, Doreen. My name is Wanda, and I am super grateful |
2:05.5 | to be here. I sound like a 15-year-old. I have teenagers around me all the time, so I use these |
2:10.8 | words like super. I'm not a thousand times over and I catch myself. I'm really excited to be here. I'm excited to |
2:19.7 | share what for a while used to be a source of shame for me. I was actually reflecting back because |
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