Welcome to the Restless Politics Question Time with me, Rory Stewart.

And me, Anastagambo.

Anastagambo. I want to hit you with something.

Macron-China interview. So you've been following the French press.

You're actually in France, aren't you?

I am.

We can hear the tweeting of the birds of the French spring.

I think I heard what sounded like a black bird outside your window, Rysni.

Now, Cosmoisella, what do you make of Macron's recent interview

following on from his China's visit?

Is he really keen on establishing a third world power block,

or is he trying to hedge his bets in the light of potential Trump resurgence?

Is there some strategy behind this, or is it driven by ego over you?

Well, so President Macron, accompanied by European Commission President

Ursula von der Leyen, had a big trip to China.

President, she certainly rolled out of the red carpet.

Certainly for Macron, less so for Ursula von der Leyen.

And it seemed to go in terms of the China perspective.

I think they felt that it went well from their perspective.

And Macron, I think, thinks it went well from his perspective.

A couple of points I would make right at the top.

I think our friends from the stop-weager genocide movement will be

...