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You know, we've heard for a while about what can each person do,

and then somehow we go from what every person can do to there ought to be a policy.

Well, in the middle of that, there's a whole heap of volunteers getting together and fixing stuff.

The dominant narrative that we're destructive and should feel ashamed of ourselves,

why does this actually do our work in sustainability a disservice?

What's the importance of accepting that not everybody will approach or see environmental activism in the same way,

and that there is a wide variety of ways people connect with and help protect nature?

That's just the tip of the iceberg of what you'll hear today.

I'd like to take a moment to thank our sponsor, Arbor Tees.

Arbor Tees is a small family-owned organic tea company driven by

sustainability in all of its practices, from the sourcing, packaging, use of renewables to power its

operations, and more. I'm excited to share more about their work later, but for now, to our episode.

Let's dive in.

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