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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

12/5/25 William Van Wagenen on Life in Post-Assad Syria

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8 • 989 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Scott interviews William Van Wagenen about some of the horrific crimes taking place in Syria now that Bin Ladenite Islamists have taken over the country. They explore some of these stories and discuss the level of attention these are getting in the Western press and the broader geopolitical context behind this consequential regime change. Discussed on the show: Creative Chaos: Inside the CIA’s Covert War to Topple the Syrian Government by William Van Wagenen “The Alawite women taken as sex slaves in Syria” (The Spectator) “Inside Syria’s state-backed cover-up of Alawite women’s kidnappings” (The Cradle) William Van Wagenen is the author of Creative Chaos: Inside the CIA’s Covert War to Topple the Syrian Government. He has a BA in German literature From Brigham Young University and an MA in Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School. You can read his other writings on Syria for the Libertarian Institute here. Follow him on Twitter @wvanwagenen Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth app:  https://podsworth.com Use code HORTON50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings, sound like a pro, and also support the Scott Horton Show! For more on Scott’s work: Check out The Libertarian Institute:  https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott’s other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott’s books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/3HRufs0 Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott’s full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Roberts Brokerage Incorporated https://rrbi.co Moon Does Artisan Coffee https://scotthorton.org/coffee; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom https://www.libertyclassroom.com/dap/a/?a=1616 and Dissident Media https://dissidentmedia.com You can also support Scott’s work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/ https://scotthortonshow.com or https://patreon.com/scotthortonshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen of the press have been less than honest, reporting to the American people, what's going on in this country?

0:11.0

Because the babies are making it.

0:13.0

We're dealing with Hitler Revisited.

0:15.0

This is the Scott Horton Show, Libertarian Foreign Policy, mostly.

0:21.7

When the president doesn't, that means that it is not a legal.

0:24.5

We're going to take out seven countries in five years.

0:27.0

They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

0:29.3

Negotiate now.

0:31.4

End this war.

0:33.5

And now, here's your host, Scott Horton.

0:39.3

All right, you guys, welcome the show.

0:42.2

It is William Ben Wagonin from the Libertarian Institute, is our guest.

0:48.0

He is, of course, the author of our most recently published book,

0:53.6

which I won't be able to say for very long,

0:55.6

but for now, creative chaos about Obama and the CIA's dirty war in Syria, the origins

1:04.5

of the dirty war in Syria. And are you in Syria now or you're back in Lebanon or welcome back to

1:11.2

I'm in in Lebanon, yeah.

1:13.1

Yeah.

1:13.9

So you've been, I know you spent and for people not familiar with the background,

1:19.2

William has done these tremendous, extremely long form articles for the Institute

1:25.5

all about the history of the dirty war in Syria back

1:29.5

15 through 10 years ago. And then of course now published in book form and has extensive

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