12/22/25: Silicon Valley's Dark Quest For Techno Fascism
Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
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🗓️ 22 December 2025
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Krystal is joined by Jacob Silverman to discuss Silicon Valley's quest for techno fascism.
Jacob Silverman: https://www.amazon.com/Gilded-Rage-Radicalization-Silicon-Valley/dp/1399419986
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys. Ready or not, 2024 is here, and we here at |
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| 0:21.4 | about, it just means the absolute world to have your support. But enough with that, let's get to the show. Hey, guys, hope everyone is doing well. I have a fantastic interview I want to share with you that I think is extraordinarily important given the way that tech oligarchs have effectively taken over our government and are operating it for their own ends. |
| 0:41.4 | So you guys know me, Saga, Ryan, Emily, the whole team. |
| 0:44.2 | We've been covering AI. We've been covering crypto. |
| 0:47.1 | We've been covering both the near term and the long-term effects. |
| 0:49.6 | So everything from the immediate electricity price hikes because of the data center buildout, the way our |
| 0:55.2 | whole economy is apparently now just one big bet on AI, the stripping back of all regulations |
| 1:01.8 | to rein in or have any sort of democratic check on what these tech oligarchs ultimately want. |
| 1:07.3 | And then also the more dire, longer-term consequences of potentially shredding the |
| 1:13.0 | social contract, eliminating the need for all or most human labor, and ultimately an actual |
| 1:18.7 | existential threat to humanity itself. So my guest is Jacob Silverman. He wrote an incredible book |
| 1:26.4 | about how this cast of characters has come to |
| 1:30.0 | effectively stage a coup of our democratic government and are getting everything they want in Trump |
| 1:36.3 | 2.0. His name is Jacob Silverman. His book is Gilded Rage, Elon Musk, and the radicalization of Silicon |
| 1:42.7 | Valley. Elon Musk is in the title and Elon Musk is |
| 1:45.4 | definitely in the book. But this is really about everyone from Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, Mark |
| 1:50.2 | Andreessen, David Sachs, and how they made this, I guess you'd call it a right-wing turn, |
| 1:56.1 | although their politics in terms of economics have always been very self-serving and very |
| 2:00.4 | libertarian. So in any case, |
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