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Oh God, What Now?

119: Into PurgaTORY with special guest DOMINIC GRIEVE MP

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2019

⏱️ 72 minutes

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On the agenda: the Conservatives’ self-inflicted purgatory. The squabble for the Party leadership, and why Rory Stewart is the Tory Corbyn (Torbyn?). Trump Week and Britain’s future as trade partner or prey. And the sad end (or is it?) of Change UK. It’s all here in an absolutely fascinating extra-length conversation with a titan of our political times. And there’s a ray of hope too. “The Brexit Party is thriving on paralysis,” Dominic Grieve tells us. “Take away that paralysis and they will begin to fade.” Let’s hope so. Enjoy the podcast… Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Ros Taylor and Ian Dunt. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Audio production is by Sophie Black at Soho Radio, London. Remainiacs is a Podmasters production. Get every new episode of Remainiacs a whole day early when you back us on the Patreon crowdfunding platform. You’ll also get our monthly Ask Remainiacs special episode plus smart merchandise, an exclusive weekly column by our panel, and discounts on #RemainiacsLive tickets too. #OwnTheRemoan http://www.REMAINIACS.com Get your free download of our theme tune ‘Demon Is A Monster’ by Cornershop. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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in gone. A lame duck PM has been wandering around London with the American president that she

1:02.2

unwisely invited over a state visit. I can happier times. The Tories are involved in a leadership

1:09.1

contest. And not for the first time, nobody knows what's going to happen next. I'm Dorian Linsky,

1:13.0

I've got two of our regulars with me this week. Ros Taylor edits LSE Brexit, where she fights a

1:17.2

valiant rear guard action in favour of experts who know facts and stuff. Hi Ros, how are you?

1:22.3

Hello, I'm very well, thank you. You wrote a great conifer at Pouching Backers this week,

1:25.6

essentially saying that the remainers need to stop being intimidated by the leave hardcore.

1:29.2

You said disengagement isn't working and aggression is going unchallenged. What prompts you to

1:34.2

write that and what do you think we should do differently? Yeah, well it was the fact that

1:38.3

we seem to be coming ever more polarized. And this despite people constantly telling us that we

1:45.0

have to get together and talk to each other and it's just not happening. And I think this is

1:50.3

actually because levers and remainers tend to operate in very different styles. I don't know whether

1:55.3

it's true whether they operate in different styles away from social media, but certainly on

2:00.9

social media there has been some academic research done and viewers tend to be more aggressive

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