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It is difficult to over-ece

it is difficult to overestimate the influence of a not just a superstar but a mega

superstar is there another superlative we could add in order to create a category for Taylor Swift who

started out as a cute little country Western singer and became the pop star on

planet Earth. Her latest album, well it became the highest vinyl record

sales, they do sell them still, the kids love them, of all time and it is showing no signs of slowing down. When Taylor Swift speaks

tens of millions of women and girls listen, so what she has to say in her latest album, we might want to figure out what she's saying there.

Welcome back to issues, etc. I'm Todd Wilkin. Joining us to talk about Taylor Swift's latest album,

the Tortured Poets Department.

Pastor Andrew Packer, he's senior pastor of Good Shepherd Lutheran Church here in Collinsville, Illinois

and he wrote a review of Swift's album for parents in his congregation.

Pastor, welcome.

Thanks for having me, Todd.

So why did you post on your church's Facebook page, I believe, the lyrics of Taylor Swift's latest album.

Yeah, so what happened was I knew Taylor Swift album was coming out, but I've been largely indifferent

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