And Welcome back, Kathy Kanser's live. I'm Cy Kelle, your host. I want to apologize to the

Vatican. And if you were listening last hour you know why I'm apologizing to the Vatican

but I do not need to apologize to Italian artists or is it a capital since the Vatican is the capital of the Vatican? Is the Vatican, is Vatican City the capital of the Vatican? Like it's a city and it's a country.

The capital of the Holy See, yeah, that's tricky. I have the same question with San Marino by the way.

Do you have a lot of problems with the whole situation with San Marino? Is that a big thing in your

you worry a lot about San Marino? How do you feel about Luxembourg?

You okay there or?

Well, Luxembourg is like, it's big enough

like Luxembourg city, you know,

it's kind of surrounding area.

Okay.

Name another country that has two enclave like that. So you got San Marino and the Vatican in Italy where you've got a contiguous landmass and then you've got two little cutouts. There's another country that has one and a half cutouts.

Well, wait a second, because here in the United States, and I'm not going to, I'm saying this sincerely,

I don't know the legal status of Indian lands sometimes called reservations

because like like Navajo lands belong to the Navajo people and they have their own status but does anybody

really know what the status is I mean there must be somebody somewhere

it's tricky it's not state level sovereignty but it is sometimes

understood to be national level sovereignty.

So like the Western Shoshoni created their own passports if memory serves, but those

passports aren't recognized by a lot of countries including by the US. So that those kind of things where they're trying to

assert a certain level of sovereignty, they are suiuris, right? They have their own jurisdiction.

And so there is a legal standing, but it isn't at the level of state.

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