1163 Shad White / State Auditor of Mississippi /MISSISSIPPI SWINDLE
Stand Up! with Pete Dominick
Pete Dominick
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 August 2024
⏱️ 83 minutes
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How America’s youngest state auditor uncovered the largest public corruption scandal in the history of the nation’s poorest state
“A must read” with all the thrills of a John Grisham novel — for fans of shocking true crime exposés like Black Edge and Bad Blood (Peter Schweizer, author of Secret Empires)
This riveting exposé details how a small team of auditors and investigators, led by the youngest State Auditor in the country, uncovered a brazen scheme where the powerful stole millions in welfare funds from the poor in a sprawling conspiracy that stretched from Mississippi to Malibu.
Well-connected donors, highly placed officials, and popular public figures diverted tens of millions of dollars from the federal government’s TANF — temporary assistance for needy families — program until a Republican auditor, his small team of dedicated investigators, and a Democratic prosecutor joined forces to hold them accountable in the face of intense obstruction and harassment.
Peopled with unforgettable characters — from the perpetrators; to the impoverished citizens for whom the money was intended; to the investigators, prosecutors, and reporters who held them to account — Mississippi Swindle is a political and true crime drama that highlights larger crises while appealing to a broad nationwide audience.
In his time as State Auditor, Shad White’s team has stopped the largest public fraud in state history, made the largest civil recovery after an auditor’s investigation in the history of the office, and concluded cases that, collectively, led to hundreds of years of prison sentences for fraudsters.
White, a Certified Fraud Examiner (CFE), grew up in Sandersville, Mississippi, population 731, in a blue-collar family. His father and grandfather were oilfield pumpers, and his mother and grandmother were public school teachers. On the weekends, his father was music minister at their small country church, and his mother played the organ. Shad went on to earn degrees from the University of Mississippi, the University of Oxford, where he studied as a Rhodes Scholar, and Harvard Law School.
White was appointed the 42nd State Auditor of Mississippi in July 2018 and won election to the office after establishing a tough, no-nonsense reputation. Prior to becoming Auditor, White served as a special prosecutor, won ethics cases against politicians who broke the law, and earned a certificate in forensic accounting (the use of accounting to discover fraud) from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. He also serves in the military as a captain in the Mississippi National Guard.
Today Shad, his wife Rina and their children live in Rankin County and are faithful members at St. Richard Church.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello there. I hope everybody is doing okay, especially those of you that are down there in Florida in the middle of a hurricane and the rest of you, of course, as well, that are baking across the country, except for those of you that are in that sweet spot in Northern California, you like to brag about where it's always just temperate. You guys can go after yourselves and invite me out to your homes. I'm very happy to have you here and thank you for pressing play in today's podcast. I have a great guest joining me today. Well, his name is Shad White. He is the Mississippi State Auditor. He wrote a new book. It's called Mississippi Swindle, Brett Farve, and the welfare scandal that shocked America. |
| 0:38.4 | But guess what? He's also a Republican and a Trump supporter. It's a very interesting conversation. The first half of it, we focus on the books. The second half, we talk politics and we really mix it up. But I think it went very well, and he did too, and hopefully he'll come back. I think you're really going to like it. That interview begins at 21 minutes into today's show. |
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| 1:18.4 | It makes a huge difference to keep us going. |
| 1:21.0 | And speaking of keeping us going, I think I'll host a hangout tonight if, in fact, Kamala Harris |
| 1:26.2 | does decide who she's going to choose to be her running |
| 1:28.8 | mate it's either apparently going to be Josh Shapiro the governor of pennsylvania or tim waltz |
| 1:32.8 | the governor of minnesota who whole bunch of people are discovering and liking quite a bit i feel like |
| 1:37.8 | i've seen many photos of tim waltz holding a baby pig or a kitten. |
| 1:50.6 | The guy is always holding animals, unlike RFK, who is constantly eating them, a dog, a bear, |
| 1:51.4 | whatever it is. |
| 1:55.8 | Anyway, Josh Shapiro looks pretty good, too, although a lot of people have issues with him, |
| 2:00.4 | a lot of more progressive lefties on issues regarding the Middle East, regarding charters, his lack of |
| 2:01.4 | support for teachers unions and others. So we'll see. Either way, I hope we can still stay together |
| 2:07.5 | and it doesn't become in any way divisive. J.L. Covan tweeted yesterday, I think there's only one |
| 2:13.3 | correct vice president pick for Vice President Harris. And if she selects anyone other than my choice, |
| 2:19.6 | I will be forced to vote for Donald Trump. |
| 2:21.7 | So I thought that was funny. All right, |
| 2:23.5 | that's the big story leading the news |
| 2:25.8 | and it may have been announced by the time |
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