115: Bruce Sanderson
I'll Drink to That! Wine Talk
Levi Dalton
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 September 2013
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Bruce Sanderson is Senior Editor and Tasting Director of "Wine Spectator" Magazine.
Also in this episode, Erin Scala talks lager.
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| 0:00.0 | I'll drink to that where we get behind the scenes of the beverage business. |
| 0:05.1 | I'm Levy Dalton. |
| 0:06.1 | I'm Erin Scala and here's our show today. Let's talk for a minute about yeast and beer. I think that we've all |
| 0:28.9 | witnessed the growing craft beer scene over the last decade and I know a lot of us are incorporating these beers |
| 0:34.1 | into our beverage programs and if you're like me you're drinking them all the time. |
| 0:39.8 | But when you get into the details talking about lagers and ails is a lot more complex than it seems on the surface. |
| 0:45.0 | So the easy definition that everybody regurgitates is that ails are made with top fermenting yeasts and lagers are made with bottom fermenting yeast. |
| 0:53.0 | But distinguishing between these two is a lot more complex than that. |
| 0:57.0 | So before Belgian lagers came on the scene in the 1400s, |
| 1:01.0 | essentially all beers were ails, and the split in genre occurred before the yeasts, and brewers didn't know that yeast was microscopically behind the phenomenon of bottom |
| 1:15.4 | fermenting lagers in top fermenting ails. |
| 1:18.6 | All that they really knew was that suddenly they could ferment at lower temperatures for longer periods of time. |
| 1:24.6 | And today we know this is because a different species of yeast traveled to Europe and began to |
| 1:28.7 | be used in beer production. |
| 1:30.6 | And this yeast most likely originated in Patagonia of all places where it had a symbiotic relationship with sugary tree galls. |
| 1:37.0 | Now this is actually pretty interesting. So imagine you're in Patagonia and all of these beech trees are all around you and these |
| 1:44.7 | trees actually produce these bulbous things that grow on them and they're actually |
| 1:49.2 | full of sugar and these local yeasts their official Latin name is Pastorianists, so these local Pastorianists |
| 1:55.8 | attach themselves to the Gauls, eat them, they actually ferment and can be eaten as food. |
| 2:01.1 | And if you think about it, Loggers came to be in the 1400s, right around the time when |
| 2:06.0 | ship exploration to the Americas was gearing up into full swing. |
| 2:09.9 | So it makes sense that these ships that are going back and forth across the Atlantic |
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