Hello and welcome to Cathergance's Live. I'm Sy Kelly, your host, as happy as can be

to be back here with you on a Monday afternoon. Thanks so much for taking the time to be here

with us. We're going to do open form, first hour, 888-318-7884. As a number second hour, Michael

Lofton will be here with us. From Reason and Theology, we're going to talk about his new book,

Answering Orthodoxy, a Catholic response to attacks from the East, and whether you are an Orthodox

Christian, a Catholic person, or neither of the above. If you want to get involved in that conversation,

that will be second hour. This hour, Joe Hashmire is our guest, the author of a whole bunch of

books, including this one. The Eucharist is really Jesus. How Christ's body and blood are the

key to everything we believe. Mr. Joe Hashmire, welcome. Thanks. It's good to be here. No thanks. Thanks

for being here. We do appreciate it. Nothing if not punctual. Well, I was trying to join the chat

five minutes early, and I got in it like two minutes till. So, you know, I tried to give it a lot of time.

No, I mean, I keep you on your toes. They say in radio, as long as you're in front of the

microphone, when the music stops playing, you're on time. I feel like you may have made this

saying up to justify. No, this is many, many people say this. They also say, don't pick on Joe.

So, these are two big radio things that people say. The two cardinal rules of radio. Yeah, right.

I see how well you observe them. Yeah, 8883187884. Joe is a podcaster now, and I don't know if he's

even going to do the show anymore after a while, because he's getting so popular on the podcast

that he might be like, see my people about that. I don't know if I'm going to come on.

But congratulations on all the excess, all the success at Shameless Propri.

Yeah, I mean, it might be a little bit of both, a little bit of excessive, a little shameless.

Yeah, so it's been, it's been great. It's been really beautiful. And I'll say it's, I've been doing

a five week series, I'm responding to atheism. And it's been really good to get in the weeds with

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