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Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

112: Truth-Based Techniques

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Clinical, Therapy, Anxiety, Psychotherapy, Depression, Health & Fitness, Cognitive, Mentalhealth, Mental Health, Behavior, Education, Self-improvement, Psychology, Relationships, Addiction, Happiness, Personalgrowth

4.4856 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2018

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

One of the goals for our Feeling Good Podcasts is to bring the TEAM-CBT techniques to life for mental health professionals, patients, and the general public as well. I (David Burns) use more than 50 Techniques when I'm working with individuals with depression, anxiety disorders, relationship problems, or habits / addictions. Today we will compare and contrast the four Truth-Based Techniques, including:

  1. Examine the Evidence
  2. The Experimental Technique
  3. The Survey Technique
  4. Reattribution

These were among the first cognitive therapy techniques ever developed, and they were based on the work of Dr. Aaron Beck, from Philadelphia, as well as Dr. Albert Ellis, from New York. Dr. Ellis is the Grandfather of Cognitive Therapy, and he described many of these techniques in the 1950s. He called his treatment Rational Emotive Therapy, and it's still popular today. During the 1960s, Beck, who is considered the Father of Cognitive Therapy adapted the ideas of Dr. Ellis to the treatment of depression, and called his version of the treatment Cognitive Therapy.

Beck emphasized that depression results from a negative view of the self, the world, and the future. In other words, the patient may think:

  1. I'm a loser. (negative view of the self)
  2. Nothing i do will be successful or rewarding. (negative view of the world)
  3. Things will never change. I'm hopeless. (negative view of the future)

Beck claimed that the negative thoughts of the depressed individual are the actual cause of the depression. He also emphasized that the disturbing negative thoughts of depressed patients are nearly always distorted and illogical; however, depressed individuals don’t realize that they’re fooling themselves, so they think their negative thoughts are absolutely valid. Beck also claimed that depression could be treated without drugs in many cases, and focused his treatment on challenging the patient's distorted negative thoughts.

Beck often compared depressed patients to scientists who have a theory about the world that simply isn’t true. That's why scientists learn to test their theories by examining evidence and performing experiments. Beck suggested that depressed patients could also test the validity of their negative thoughts and beliefs by examining the evidence for and against what they're telling themselves, as well as by doing actual experiments to test their thoughts and beliefs.

David and Fabrice bring the four basic truth-based techniques to life with actual patient examples. They answer the question, "What's the difference between Examine the Evidence and the Experimental Technique?" And "How does the Survey Technique work?"

They emphasize the tremendous importance of warmth and empathy, as well as melting away patient resistance, before trying to implement any of these techniques. They also emphasize that these techniques, like all of the techniques, are powerful, and must be used with skill and compassion, or else they can backfire.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast.

0:12.4

I am your host, Fabrice Nye.

0:14.7

And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns.

0:19.0

Hi, David.

0:20.0

Hi, Fabrice.

0:23.8

Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of

0:30.2

Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into

0:35.5

over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor of psychiatry at the Stanford University School

0:43.0

of Medicine.

0:44.1

Welcome to episode 112 of the Feeling Good podcast.

0:47.3

Today we're going to talk about truth techniques.

0:52.9

And the truth techniques in your panoply of the 50 ways and I refer

1:01.2

people back to that episode we did on the 50 ways in 50 minutes which actually turned

1:08.6

out to be into two episodes.

1:16.4

But, so those were episodes 93 and 94.

1:23.5

And so the true techniques are examine the evidence, the experiential.

1:26.6

Experimental method, sorry. And the survey technique and also reattribution.

1:31.5

And before we go on it, I have two quick promos.

1:35.1

Number one, I have to promote my co-host Fabrice.

1:38.3

I was telling Fabrice before we started recording that everywhere I go, I get heaps of praise for Fabrice for the way

1:47.8

we work together. You have a little skepticism and creates a kind of an interesting dance

1:53.7

for people. But a heap of praise for you, Fabrice, and just if your ears are burning, I get it all the time now.

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