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The Symbolic World

112 - Jordan Peterson and the Stories We Live In

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2020

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I look at the effect of Jordan Peterson on culture, the similarities in our thought as well as my differences with him regarding the importance of stories. This essay was commissioned by Word On Fire with the original title: "Faith, Film, and the Stories We Live in." Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsRnW6baO0 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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0:00.0

This last spring, I was commissioned an essay by Bishop Barron's Word on Fire journal,

0:06.0

which comes out quarterly, and they were putting out an issue on faith and film,

0:11.0

so they asked me to write an essay for it.

0:14.0

I asked them if I could read the essay for you, and they said that it would be fine,

0:18.0

and so I'm going to read this essay because I think I was really

0:21.9

able to concisely put together my vision of how culture can be healed or how we can integrate

0:29.3

healthy culture. And as we just saw in the last few weeks, we saw Jordan Peterson reappear.

0:36.1

We were happy to see that he seems to be doing a little better.

0:39.3

And so it's also an opportunity for me to frame my relationship with him in terms of thought.

0:45.3

What are the similarities and especially what are the differences that separate Jordan and I in our perception of how to engage, to heal, to deal with a difficulty in modern culture.

1:00.0

This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

1:16.6

The world is suddenly keen on storytelling.

1:30.1

After a few decades of the new atheist assault, of the postmodern undermining and fragmentation

1:35.5

of identities, of the venomous insistence that all that makes us human is a social construct

1:41.3

as opposed to the objectivity of the sciences, a strange post-Atheistic professor

1:46.6

from Toronto has shaken the core of secularist discourse. Of course, there are those Bishop

1:53.6

Barron among them who have been hacking at the question of narrative for a while. But as I stood

1:59.4

there at a Toronto bus station late one evening in the fall of

2:02.7

2016, I knew that the moment and the character I was facing were different. After a goodbye hug and a

2:09.9

pause, I looked at Jordan Peterson and said, you're going to bring back Christianity. His surprised reaction betrayed hesitation, followed by his

2:21.1

secular alternative. Hopefully we can get people to understand the psychological significance of

2:27.7

these Bible stories. I was unsettled by his answer, and it still rings in my ear to this day.

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