Well, welcome back to Cathy Gantz's Live. I'm Sy Kelly at your host, Joe Heschmeier here

with us this hour for an hour of open forum. The number is 888-318-788-488-318-788-4.

I got to just say, though, that working here at Cathy Gantz was some weeks a really extraordinary

and having the Berks here, Stephanie and Dan Berk yesterday was just such a great gift. People

doing wonderful work, helping other people in their prayer lives, in their spiritual lives,

and then to meet these two gentlemen, Andrew and Marco today also. Really, really a great

privilege to hear how they minister in the way that they do, and I am kind of convinced with

their, about their model. I'm convinced about that, you know, having spoken to them now and it's

gotten to spend some time with them. This idea that one of the things we can do as Catholics,

as Christian people, is do this together. That is, we don't necessarily need separate groups

for our various forms of sexual disintegration, but we can be helpful to one another.

It's really quite an extraordinary thing, and I hope you enjoyed that hour, and I hope you'll

visit their website, DesertSpring.org. No. DesertStream, darn it. I'm, what is... Anyway, Joe Heschmeier's

here. I had to get that wrong, just so Joe would have something to pick on me about. I just want

to say, and I think everyone listening will be shocked by this. You were somehow not the

meanest person to be last hour. They were so mean to you. Andrew, Eddie Kamisky's just like,

said, Joe Heschmeier's the worst. Anyway, about ministry. I know, I know. So then, you know,

you kind of wonder, like, I don't listen to the show every day. Is this just normal? Like, every day,

every day, people just talk about how much they don't like Joe Heschmeier. I'm sorry, I didn't know

you weren't aware. I would have told you. We can collect them. This is my response hour. I'd like

to begin by. Yeah. Joe, you know, rebuttal hour. Andy's just jealous, because Marco is the Godfather

to my son, and we've never asked Andy, and we'll never ask Andy to be Godfather. I'll see that. Joe,

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