Hello and welcome to Cattle Gansers Live. I'm Sy Kellet, your host. It's a very fine

show for you today. Second hour, Tim, excuse me, no, it's Tom. Tom Nash will be here second

hour and we'll do open form. You can ask Tom whatever you like, but we have had a wonderful

treat here in the in at Cattle Gansers today here in the studio, but also in the offices

more generally. We have two very fine visitors. Stephanie and Dan Burke are here. You may

know them from the Abla Institute or from some of their other work, but we're going to

talk a little bit about marriage. First of all, let me just say hello. Hello, Stephanie.

Hello, Dan. Hello, it's great to be with you. Thank you very much for being so we said

to you just a little while ago, well, let's try not to overwork you and then we're just

making you show after show. Yeah, just keep working hour after hour and then you're

doing a talk tonight. Yeah, we'll survive, I think. So the work you do is around spirituality

really. Yeah, really. So will you tell us just a bit, either of you or both of you

about that work? Yeah, the Abla Foundation was established to repropose Catholic mystical

tradition to the church. So we we form priest religious and laity in well over 70 countries.

I don't know the number now. We form guys heading into seminary in 40 dioceses. Really?

Yeah, we also win one major seminary. So the Lord has just taken a very small work, which

began as spiritual direction.com and and blown it up into quite a quite a bit of activity

that we never anticipated. But it's a great privilege like with you, as you know, Catholic

cancer serves the church in such a powerful way. It's a great privilege in every year. He

seems to introduce something new for us to chase after to help the church. So it's it's wonderful.

If you'd like to call, we're going to talk about marriage today. 888-318-788-4. Tribal 8-318-788-4.

Stephanie, how did you come to this work of spirituality and helping people in their spiritual lives?

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