Marshall and Saga here welcome back to the realignment

Nothing was worse than the pandemic

There's just no question that

I think a lot will ride on how what happens now and

Well if we see how these habits continue and if we see basically whether people are willing to

Reengage with the physical world around them

And I think what I've just been struck by is the that the level of

That the level of what how just how extreme the level of withdrawal has been from your local community from your local businesses

Just the the willingness to really kind of just pull back and back down the hatches and let people bring stuff to you

We

We have another awesome show for you all we are speaking with Alec McGillis a reporter at full public

Uh, it was written fulfillment winning and losing in one click America

I joke with Alec the start of the episode if you look at the title and cover of the book you to assume this is all about

Amazon it's a story of how Amazon is doing this

How is that is doing that and one could come away from that having a deeper understanding of Amazon's direct impact on the country

However, if you actually read the book which I highly recommend it's very clear that Alec is using Amazon as a specific lens of

Looking at the country in the year

2021 he talks about how he wrote this over the period of three years and I'll read a quote which really says that why this was important

Amazon was an ideal frame for understanding the country and what the country was becoming given how many contemporary forces it represented and helped explain I

Loved talking with Alec

He's somebody who like you said Marshall is really just bringing together the story of America through talking about

Amazon if you guys enjoyed books like coming apart or the

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