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Gender: A Wider Lens

11 - Sex Therapy & Education: why are all the therapists 'affirming'?

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6961 Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2021

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Therapist Timothy Courtois pursued graduate education to deepen his knowledge of the role sexuality and intimacy play in our lives. He quickly came to feel that this program was using some of the same tactics of moralizing and indoctrination that he’d left behind after leaving a controlling religious community. We discuss the program's mixed-up understanding of sexuality, consent, and power dynamics in relationships. We set the stage for future conversations about a richer psychological and embodied view of sexuality.

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Extended Notes

  • How did Tim get started in this field?
  • How did Tim find out about the AASECT program?
  • Prior to joining the program, Tim was working for a religious organization and it became apparent that there were going to be conflicts.
  • Tim shares a little bit about his experience with the program and the materials in it.
  • The program had a strong focus on BDSM porn and trans issues.
  • Tim, as a therapist, wanted to be better equipped to handle new sexual issues but didn’t feel like watching porn and other materials in the program accurately helped him in this area.
  • In the program, it was clear that it was “morally wrong” to make moral judgments about others. Tim found that troubling.
  • It was clear that if you had any adverse responses or sensitivity to the materials being shown, those feelings needed to be “drowned out.” Tim wasn’t a fan of this method. There was so much room for exploration of one's own emotions that was ignored.
  • When we try to buck our norms and be submissive with our behaviors, it can disconnect us from our instinct.
  • The footage Tim saw was quite disturbing. He explains what he watched in the program.
  • What is the pain that clients are bringing to us?
  • It was a room of therapists watching these videos and they felt like they couldn’t speak up.
  • In a lot of ways, Tim saw this “cult-following” to be much worse than the Christian organization he left.
  • Did the program have an overview of intimacy and relationships?
  • Let’s talk about morality and pedophilia within the program.
  • There were some heavy contradictions in the program that Tim disagreed with.
  • Virtual sex should not be considered “real sex.” It’s completely different from the real thing.
  • How do you educate children about sex in a healthy way?
  • You’re either going to be waterboarded with information or it’s suppressed. There doesn’t seem to be a happy middle.
  • A lot of parents are concerned about their child’s sexual health, especially when they want to transition.
  • What is the internet doing to our perceptions of sex, love, and intimacy?
  • In the program, porn was a huge no because porn has a religious, moral, and political agenda.
  • Tim shares a common story that many couples face when one of the partners has a porn addiction. What is your moral obligation as a therapist?
  • We have to be able to point to something that goes beyond what the research paper says.
  • What does a healthy, well-balanced, sex life looks like?


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0:00.0

You're listening to gender, a wider lens.

0:04.0

I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

0:06.5

And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

0:10.6

Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens

0:16.1

and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning

0:20.7

teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and

0:24.2

individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the

0:28.1

concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens.

0:37.6

Today's episode contains references

0:39.5

to graphic material and adult content. On our show today we have Tim Cortois, who's a licensed professional counselor in Michigan in the United States.

0:48.0

Tim has been practicing for 15 years, specializing in work related to sexuality.

0:54.8

In the year 2020, Tim wrote a piece for Qualet where he discusses his experience at a program,

1:01.9

the University of Michigan in Sexual Health and we are here to talk

1:06.1

today with Tim about that experience and to dive into what counselor education

1:11.3

around sexuality looks like these days.

1:13.4

So Tim, thank you for joining us.

1:15.2

Hi, thanks for having me.

1:17.2

I'm excited to be here.

1:18.7

So where do you want to start?

1:20.2

I mean, there's a lot in your piece that I want to get to but perhaps we should go a little further back to get some context on you know why you decided to sign up for this program my understanding is that you were already an LPC, a licensed counselor at that point, is that right?

1:35.6

Yeah, I had been practicing for, well since 2006, I signed up for the program in 2019.

1:42.0

And I had up for the program in 2019.

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