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11: Power Vacuum in Gaza: Clans Challenge Weakening Hamas Authority. Jonathan Schanzer (Foundation for Defense of Democracies) analyzes the reports of violence and gunplay occurring in Gaza, even during the ceasefire. Clan, family, and tribe structures have a

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Power Vacuum in Gaza: Clans Challenge Weakening Hamas Authority. Jonathan Schanzer (Foundation for Defense of Democracies) analyzes the reports of violence and gunplay occurring in Gaza, even during the ceasefire. Clan, family, and tribe structures have always been significant features in the governance of Palestinian territories, including Gaza and the West Bank. As Hamas weakens, these tribes are attempting to exert their authority and project power, leading to clashes on the streets. This is simply a grab for power, opposed by Hamas, which attempts to maintain control through violence and brutality. This process could result in different entities and actors controlling various pockets of the Gaza Strip, leading to a situation of fragmented territories or "bantustans."








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This is John Batchel. Conversation with colleague Jonathan Shanzer, Executive Director of Foundation for the Defense of Democracy about the reports of violence execution gunplay in Gaza in the areas

0:33.0

controlled by, or formerly controlled by Hamas. Who's fighting? The clans. The clans are dominant in parts of

0:40.8

the Middle East and they're dominant no less in Gaza. What the outcome is, well, Jonathan explains.

0:47.7

We're not sure. The fighting within the fighting during the ceasefire. Jonathan Shanzer, more of this tonight.

0:56.6

I don't know if they were prepared, John,

0:58.2

but I think it's always been a realistic feature of Gaza

1:02.1

that clan and family and tribe have played a significant role

1:06.8

in the governance of, by the way, not just Gaza,

1:09.9

but the Palestinian territories in the West Bank,

1:12.9

as well as in places like Lebanon or Jordan or Syria. And so what we're seeing right now,

1:18.8

and this I think was entirely predictable. But as Hamas gets weaker, these tribes are going to try to

1:25.6

exert their authority. They're going to try to project power authority they're going to try to project power this is

1:30.1

leading to clashes on the streets it is simply a grab for power that is what is happening

1:37.0

Hamas is trying to maintain its power through brutality through the projection of violence and

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