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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

11 | Mike Brown on Killing Pluto and Replacing It with Planet 9

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll

Physics, Science

4.74.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2018

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Few events in recent astronomical history have had the worldwide emotional resonance as the 2006 announcement that Pluto was no longer considered a planet, at least as far as the International Astronomical Union was concerned. The decision was a long time coming, but no person deserves more credit/blame for forcing the astronomical community's hand than Caltech astronomer Michael Brown. He and his team discovered a number of objects in the outer Solar System -- Eris, Haumea, Sedna, and others -- any of which was just as deserving of planetary status as Pluto. Rather than letting the planetary family proliferate without bound, astronomers decided that none of these objects dominated the orbits in which they moved, so none of them should be planets. Now Brown and his colleague Konstantin Batygin have found indirect evidence that there is another real planet far beyond Pluto's orbit -- which they have dubbed Planet Nine just to remind you that there are currently only eight. [smart_track_player url="http://traffic.libsyn.com/seancarroll/mike-brown.mp3" social_gplus="false" social_linkedin="true" social_email="true" hashtag="mindscapepodcast" ] Mike Brown received his Ph.D. in Astronomy from U.C. Berkeley in 1994, and is currently the Richard and Barbara Rosenberg Professor of Planetary Astronomy at Caltech. He shared the Kavli Prize in Astrophysics in 2012 for his discovery of major new objects in the outer Solar System, and in 2007 won Caltech's annual Feynman Teaching Prize. Home page Wikipedia page Blog Twitter How I Killed Pluto and Why It Had It Coming Online course, The Science of the Solar System Download Episode

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to the Mindscape Podcast.

0:03.3

I'm your host Sean Carroll.

0:05.4

You may have heard that one sign of an open rationally-minded thinker is the ability to

0:10.9

change one's mind, to have an opinion and change it to something else in the face of new

0:15.3

arguments or evidence.

0:17.2

Personally, I don't even remember usually when I changed my mind about things.

0:21.6

One of the ways my brain works and I don't think I'm unusual in this is that I convinced

0:25.7

myself that I always believed that thing that I believed right now, even though I did

0:29.2

change my mind.

0:30.2

But there's one example where I remember very vividly in science that I changed my

0:34.6

mind from a strong belief one way to another, and that's in whether or not Pluto is a planet.

0:41.1

You may have heard, you may remember where you were when you first learned the news back

0:44.5

in 2006.

0:46.2

The International Astronomical Union got together and decided that we would no longer

0:50.6

classify Pluto as a planet but instead as a dwarf planet.

0:56.8

Pluto was caused outrage across the globe as people, school children and older folks

1:02.0

said, look, we know what the planets are.

1:04.8

There are nine of them and Pluto was one of them.

1:07.6

This is you even made it into an episode of Rick and Morty, the animated feature.

1:12.6

But there, on Rick and Morty, the reason why Pluto had gotten demoted is because it was

1:17.4

getting smaller.

1:19.4

That the plutonians were mining their own central core so that Pluto itself was shrinking

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