This episode gents is brought to you by a prison's guide to it's a new podcast series from HM Prison and Prevision Service.

I've been listening to it this week.

Tell us more Chris.

Oh, it's inspirational stuff Matt. Inspirational.

It's a new podcast presented by Ben Bailey Smith.

I mean, how many podcasts do you listen to where they're trying to want to earth life lessons?

You know, from like CEOs on entrepreneurs, footballers, you know, they don't know it.

They don't know a real life, do they?

I know what you're saying.

This is a completely different perspective.

It's like looking into life in the prisons of England and Wales.

The psychologies that work there, the wardens, the guards, the different experiences there.

After they're we're on a day-to-day basis and the life lessons that they've learned through it.

You'll know this first, Dan, wouldn't you, Chris?

Yeah, I mean, that was a prison warden.

Some of the stories are you opening, unbelievable.

The thing is that this is from on the ground in it.

It's not what people want you to think and want you to hear and all the stories are the one.

This is proper real life.

This is what's happened from on the ground.

And what people have to do to overcome things that are in prison and how they can be rehabilitated.

I'll be listening to this one, then.

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