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The Tim & April Show

109. The Epstein of the Church World: Lawyers Detail Horrifying Allegations Around Harvest Church Scandal

The Tim & April Show

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Politics, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the serious case involving allegations of child abuse linked to Greg Laurie's Harvest Church, highlighting issues of accountability, church culture, and justice. Lawyers Anne Oliverius and Jeff McAllister discuss the details of the lawsuit, the history of abuse, and the importance of public awareness and justice for victims. Chapters 03:03 The Case Against Harvest Church 06:08 Background on Greg Laurie and Harvest Church 11:55 The Investigation and Discovery of Abuse 15:06 Harvest Church's Response and Cover-Up 18:01 The Impact on Victims and Church Culture 20:46 Conclusion and Reflection on Institutional Failures 30:23 Patterns of Abuse in Evangelical Culture 34:52 The Journey of the Lawsuit 43:43 Coalition Building Against Child Abuse 51:51 The Emotional Toll of Advocacy ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to a new evangelicals production.

0:13.3

The Tim and April show, where we unravel faith, politics, and culture.

0:22.6

What's up, friends?

0:23.5

Welcome back to the show.

0:24.5

I am Tim Whitaker.

0:25.8

And I am April of Joy.

0:27.3

We have quite the episode.

0:29.9

This is maybe one of the most intense ones we've ever done,

0:33.2

especially for a guest interview.

0:34.8

And we just want to put out a triggerboarding now.

0:37.3

This subject

0:37.8

material deals a lot with child abuse, with SA, with all kinds of probably very triggering

0:44.4

things, especially for ex-Pentelicals to come out of church world. We're talking about Greg

0:48.1

Lori today. We have a very special set of guests to kind of dig into what's going on there.

0:52.4

So just a heads up on that. And also, before you go any further, make sure to give this video a like and subscribe to the channel. We go live every Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern on YouTube and on substack. So, April, where should we even start? Yikes, there's so much. Yeah. Well, I think, to be clear Greg Lorry is not the one that is accused of the bad stuff. What we're dealing with, it sounds like your typical evangelical church kind of brushing things, really awful things under the rug. And so in this episode, we're actually going to be talking to two lawyers, Anne Oliverius and Jeff

1:31.6

McAllister.

1:32.2

They are married for 44 years, which is amazing.

1:34.4

We'll get to, well, we will welcome them in just a second.

1:36.6

But they are lawyers that are heading up a case that there's a lawsuit that involves Greg

1:41.5

Lori's church, Harvest Church, and some really egregious things that

1:46.2

happened at an orphan, I believe it was an orphanage or some sort of shelter for children in

1:52.5

Romania. We will get all the context for that very soon, but it will be a heavier thing.

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