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🫢 #109 - I'm An Alcoholic And Psilocybin Saved My Life | Jon Kostakopoulos

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

Comedy

4.6 • 649 Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 22 July 2022

ā±ļø 201 minutes

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Summary

(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Jon Kostakopoulos is a Psychedelics Lobbyist & Former Alcoholic. In 2015, Jon took part in one of the groundbreaking NYU Psilocybin Studies to treat his decade-long addiction to alcohol. The therapy worked and he has never drank since. In 2019, Kostakopoulos Co-Founded Apollo Pact –– a 501(c)(3) Organization that lobbies for Federal Funding grants for all different Psychedelic treatments of various afflictions (addiction, depression, PTSD, etc). ***TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 - Intro; How Jon became an alcoholic 25:58 - Jon’s stories of addiction & trying to get clean; ā€œPeople, places, and thingsā€ 44:21 - How Jon got into NYU’s Psilocybin trial study; the pre-study process 1:06:03 - The first psychedelic trip in the study; Jon’s unforgettable experience; MK Ultra 1:28:14 - What imagery Jon remembers from the trip; Lucid Dreams and Amplifying emotions; 1:49:39 - Why Jon was certain he’d never drink again after second session; Psychedelic history and the ancient Greeks; Other patients’ outcomes from the study; The lack of temptation Jon has today 2:07:32 - Microdosing; Psychedelic visions vs dreams; The differences between a brain on psychedelics and a normal brain; Some things can’t be described in words 2:20:55 - The different medical use cases for psychedelics; Societal views on Psilocybin and psychedelics 2:38:30 - Navy SEALS, Special Operators, PTSD & Psychedelics; The corruption of the alcohol industry 3:09:00 - The power of music in the psychedelic process; Julian has an idea for music integration in future studies ~ YouTube EPISODES & CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0A-v_DL-h76F75xik8h03Q ~ Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: ā€œTRENDIFIERā€): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier PRIVADO VPN FOR $4.99/Month: https://privadovpn.com/trendifier/#a_aid=Julian Julian's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey ~ Beat provided by: https://freebeats.io Music Produced by White Hot Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

For a split second, I got genuinely upset. Like, you guys know I like to drink.

0:07.0

Like, I just can't control it. I love to control it. I'd like, ideally, I'd have a couple of drinks and be, you know, be fine.

0:16.0

And you're telling me that's a possibility. But then this was in between the second and third?

0:21.2

Yeah, the second and third.

0:22.3

And it didn't change your viewpoint, though?

0:24.0

No, it didn't because at that point...

0:25.6

What's cooking, everybody?

0:35.5

I am joined in the bunker today by Mr. John Costacopoulos and man oh man was this a wild story.

0:42.3

So John was featured on 60 Minutes a few years back where he discussed how his alcoholism was completely healed by psychedelics.

0:49.3

And no, it's not what you think. He wasn't in some basement somewhere with a shaman tripping balls.

1:02.2

Instead, he was over at NYU, taking part in one of the initial studies where they were measuring how psychedelics could properly treat things like addiction.

1:03.9

And obviously, it worked for John.

1:06.0

So you're going to hear all about that today. And you're going to hear all about this whole space with psychedelics and some of the bad education we have in America about it and how it actually really can be used for a lot of people.

1:14.6

Because John ended up co-founding Apollo Pact, which works to lobby Congress to get federal funding for psychedelic treatment for all different types of people.

1:24.6

So it's not just for addiction and the things that John is familiar with.

1:28.3

It's also for things like veterans and guys coming back with PTSD who currently have to go to places like Mexico and Costa Rica to get their own psychedelic treatment on their own dime because we don't do it here.

1:38.3

We don't do much of it here.

1:40.3

So I learned a lot in this conversation. I really, really enjoyed it, and I think you guys will too.

1:45.8

If you are on YouTube right now, please hit that subscribe button. Please hit that like button on the

1:49.9

video. And as always, would love to hear from you down in the comment section below to everyone

1:54.4

who is on Apple or Spotify. Thank you for checking out the show over there. If you haven't already,

1:59.2

please be sure to leave a five-star review

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