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1082 - Interview with the Producer and Director of The Cult of The Real Housewife

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4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Mary Payne sits down for a chat with the executive producer (Deniese Davis) and the director (Julian P. Hobbs) of TLC's The Cult of the Real Housewife. We discuss the role of social media and content creators in the investigation into Mary and Robert Cosby's church as well as the myriad of former congregants featured in the documentary. And we pose the question - is Mary Cosby a victim or a willing participant in the shenanigans of the church?

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exclusive offer of 20% off your first order. That's thrive cosmetics.com slash pink shade. T-H-R-I-V-E-C-A-U-S-E-M-E-T-I-S-T-I-S-T-S-T-E-S-ThriveC-M-E-C-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-E-S-E-E-S-E-R-E. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Pink Shade. You guys, this is a bonus episode. I'm so excited that I'm going to talk to the producer and the director of the cult of the Real Housewife. You guys know this documentary is a three-part series airing on TLC starting January 1st. You can binge all three. I did. You guys, it's really, really good.

2:18.1

It crosses what we're all interested in. We all love TLC, like it's our beating heart. But of course,

2:22.9

we also love Bravo. And we also love Mary Cosby. So this, this documentary was very eye-opening,

2:30.7

very well done. So thank you very much to Julian and Denise for joining me to discuss.

2:36.5

Now, Julian, you're the director and producer, and Denise, you're the executive producer.

2:41.1

Yes. And not joining us as Ellie. She's the other director. I know she is your partner,

2:47.2

Julian, that does these documentaries with you. And she's not here, but you're here to represent.

2:52.2

I am.

2:53.1

Thanks for having you.

2:54.1

And by the way, love your accent, love wherever you are.

2:57.6

I'm very jealous.

2:58.7

It looks better than where I am.

3:02.0

Palermo Sicily is where I am.

3:05.4

Nice.

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