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The Realignment

108 | Ross Douthat: America Before and After the Pandemic

The Realignment

The Realignment

Technology, News Commentary, National Security, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, News, Public Policy, Economics, Politics, Saager Enjeti, U.s. Politics, Policy

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2021

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Ross Douthat, New York Times columnist and author of The Decadent Society: America Before and After the Pandemic, returns to The Realignment to discuss how the COVID-19 pandemic will lead America towards catastrophe, renaissance, or further decadence. https://douthat.substack.com/p/the-pandemic-and-the-decadent-society

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0:00.0

Marshall and Saga here, welcome back to the realignment.

0:03.2

I think certainly in the last year certain things that I was writing about, certain trends

0:12.5

were temporarily suspended.

0:15.4

And then the question is what happens now?

0:17.4

And my really provisional answer is that in technology and sort of technological areas,

0:25.2

the pandemic probably pushes us out of decadence in some ways, that the sort of the race for

0:30.5

the COVID vaccine both proved that we could sort of do an amazing science in a hurry, but

0:36.3

also sort of create an attempt that I think could have follow-on effects for a lot of technological

0:41.8

changes that have sort of been hovering as possibilities for a while, but could actually

0:47.2

get pushed into reality in the next 10 years.

0:56.4

This week we are very excited to bring you Ross to doubt that to the podcast.

1:00.2

He makes his third and triumphant return in order to talk about his book, The Decadent

1:04.9

Society.

1:06.1

This is actually the updated paperback version of The Decadent Society.

1:09.3

It's called America Before and After the Pandemic.

1:12.5

Ross was literally our very last in-person guest, one of the very last people I got to

1:17.8

see in person whenever I was being interviewed.

1:21.0

And it's fascinating to me with Ross because his book was both perfectly timed for the

1:26.0

pandemic, but also left a lot out.

1:28.5

So to see him grapple with how exactly the last year has gone for his entire thesis about

1:34.1

how our economy and our culture has become, The Decadent was just really, really valuable

1:39.9

to get his insight at this time.

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