This is John Batchel, a conversation with colleague Anatole-Leban at the Quincy Institute for Responsible

Statecraft about the UK being invited to participate in the build-up of funds for investment into defense for all the European Union,

having let the story drift for many decades, They are now eager to militarize.

However, UK is not a member of the EU.

There is a deal underway with a discount.

But Anatole explains the dilemma.

Where's the money?

London has a problem.

Here's Anatole. Well, problem. Here's that at all.

Well, absolutely. I mean, and indeed, UK participation in European defence is widely viewed as essential.

But of course, the problem is that Britain is no longer part of the EU. And, you know, absolutely central to this, obviously to this effort at European

rearmament, is investing in European military industries and in new weapons production. But that,

of course, raises the whole issue of budgets, of, you know,

financial packages. And the fact that Britain isn't in the EU has made that complicated.

And basically, the – previously, the EU was trying to drive a very hard bargain for how much

money Britain would have to put into this common pot. Now it seems

they're, you know, as you say, they're willing, it seems to compromise on that. But of course,

I mean, that also does raise the question of whether the money is actually there.