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The History of the Americans

#107 Sidebar Conversation: Kenny Ryan of the Abridged Presidential Histories Podcast

The History of the Americans

Jack Henneman

History

4.9632 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2023

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Our guest today is Kenny Ryan, host of another great history pod, Abridged Presidential Histories with Kenny Ryan. Abridged Presidential Histories Podcast with Kenny Ryan launched its first episode at the end of March, 2020, and has progressed through the American presidencies chronologically. If you have listened to Abridged Presidential Histories, you already know that it includes narrative episodes with a lot of amusing factoids told with humor in solo narrative form – I think you all know I like that sort of thing – and some very interesting interviews with historians who are expert in the relevant presidencies. 

We had a wide-ranging conversation, and covered a lot of interesting stuff, including:

  • The changing reputations of Jackson, Grant, JFK, and LBJ.
  • Presidential histories take about 50 years to settle down, because they need to be written by people who were not politically aware as they happened.
  • Should Martin Van Buren get more credit for “Jacksonian Democracy?”
  • Jackson should get more credit for his handling of the Nullification Crisis.
  • What president would Kenny like to have as a friend? Surprising answer!
  • Who was the biggest party animal among the presidents?
  • Should our politicians spend more time drinking and playing cards?
  • Who were the greatest First Ladies?
  • The influence of Dolly Madison and Lady Bird Johnson. Did young Kenny meet Lady Bird on a field trip?
  • Austin’s moontowers.
  • Who was the most overrated president?
  • The revival of Calvin Coolidge’s reputation on the political right.
  • What presidents would you invite on a pub crawl?
  • Will Nixon be rehabilitated?
  • Is journalism really the “first draft of history”?
  • And much more!

Jack on Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2

Kenny on Twitter: @APHpodcast

[Abridged] Presidential Histories with Kenny Ryan (website)

…and on Apple.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the History of the Americans podcast, episode 107.

0:10.2

I'm your host, Jack Heneman, and we are recording my end of this, our second interview episode on February 26, 2023, in Austin, Texas.

0:21.2

This episode is a sidebar, which is our term for an episode that is off the timeline of

0:27.1

the history of the Americans, really my way of signaling that the episode need not be

0:31.4

listened to in sequence.

0:34.2

Our guest today is Kenny Ryan, host of another great history pod, abridged presidential histories with Kenny Ryan.

0:42.8

And we are recording his end from a secure, undisclosed location in the Pacific Northwest.

0:49.8

For those few of you who are new to this podcast, we are telling the history of the lands now encompassed by the United States from the beginning without presentism, except maybe in this episode in which there will probably be some presentism.

1:05.5

A British Presidential History's podcast with Kenny Ryan launched its first episode at the end of March

1:11.3

2020 when I at least was still doom scrolling and wondering whether my wine supply would hold out

1:18.8

and has progressed through the American presidencies chronologically. If you have listened to

1:24.4

abridged presidential histories, you already know that it includes

1:28.1

narrative episodes with a lot of amusing factoids told with humor in solo narrative form.

1:34.7

I think you all know that I like that sort of thing.

1:37.7

And some very interesting interviews with historians who are expert in the relevant presidencies.

1:44.6

Kenny has reached the Hoover years, and I, for one, am eager for his take on FDR.

1:50.6

Beyond that, I'll let Kenny introduce himself in his podcast, and we'll have a conversation.

1:56.1

So, in my best Sam Harris voice, I bring you, Kenny Ryan.

2:02.5

Kenny, how are you?

2:03.9

Thank you.

2:04.8

I'm doing great, Jack.

2:06.0

Thank you for that lovely introduction.

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