Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Cult Leader Early and add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.

Well, well, well, if it isn't a little leader, welcome back to Cult Leader, I'm your Cult Leader Spencer Henry.

And we have not done a little leader in such a long time. Allow me to reintroduce myself, especially if you're a new listener.

Little leaders are where I read the stories that you guys send into me, and we keep it cash, we catch up.

If you have a story that you want to send in, whether it is a cat fishing story, your connection to something spooky, maybe your uncle's a murderer, or truly whatever, go ahead and send me an email to Spencer at Cult Leader.com, making sure to put little leader somewhere in the title.

What a week we've had. On Monday's episode of Cult Leader, we've learned all about the murder of Palm Springs Socialite Cliff Lambert, which is such a crazy story.

And on this week's obituary, Madison and I talked about funeral clowns, we read some self-deprecating obituraries, we even got to hear about a caricature thief.

If you have not listened to obituary, highly suggest we have so much fun doing that show, you can find it on patreon at patreon.com slash Cult Leader.

For this week's return of the little leader, I wanted to make sure that we came back with something strong, so I thought it would be a lot of fun to focus on one of my favorite topics, and I know you guys love these two.

Multi-level marketing companies and pyramid schemes. A few months ago, I asked you guys to send in your stories on the topic.

And boy, oh boy, did you boss babes deliver? This first email came from a listener who there's no subject by nothing, so we're just gonna go ahead and call it LulaNo.

Now, this story is about Lula Ro, and if you're not familiar, Lula Ro is known primarily for like maxi dresses, leggings, very affordable, they cater to all types of body types, which in essence sounds great if the company was not just one big pyramid scheme.

They wrote, my friend was so so excited to join Lula Ro, she wanted to pick up a second gig where the hours were flexible with her current schedule, she was a nail tech, so she signed up and got put on a waiting list.

Fast forward a few months and she finally got the call.

The rep on the phone explained how the deal would go down, sounds sus, and from what I remember, it was $5,000 for 1000 pieces of clothing, don't quote me on the article count though.

I'm not sure on the article count, but I have read before that Lula Ro has one of the highest intro purchases where it's like around on average $5,000 to $6,000 to purchase your intro sales kit.

They wrote, she didn't have the money saved up to buy in, but instead opened a credit card and put the charge on there.

She said her advisor strongly urged her and all the members on the team to put any money they made from sales right back into purchasing more clothing, which literally came in the most horrendous patterns.

She tried to trade some of the clothes with her team members and do cross account Facebook live sales to dump the merchandise, but the patterns were seriously so bad she could barely move any of it without selling it at cost and offering free shipping, which means she lost money.

By the end of her Lula Ro journey, she was more than $10,000 in debt and the business put such a strain on her marriage that her and her husband ended up splitting because she was hiding the debt from him, and she also lost a lot of friends because she was pushing clothes on literally everyone.

You should also look into the Ligels, they run the top 5% of the company and left to start their own clothing boutique, freckled poppy, apparently the left on good terms but seems fishy to me.

Hope this makes it to you, thank you Stephanie, and no, thank you Stephanie, and sorry about your friends turn for the worst that the bummer we've all seen the Facebook lives in question.

...