Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast.

I'm Rob Zakney, joined by Alia Kampora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson.

We are, as always, supported by you are listeners via patreon.com slash civilized. So head over there if you'd like to

support the show and get access to all our Q&A episodes. Do we need to care? Do we need to tell people

like, hey, don't use the don't subscribe to us through Apple Patreon. We should say that out loud.

I don't think people have. Like this is not seen like it as a thing that has been too big a deal. But if you're not familiar with this, I would love with anybody who is using the Patreon app on app on iOS to tell us just out of

curiosity,

because I've never heard of anyone using that app for anything.

But I'm curious if that's being done.

And as Rob,

you're about to say,

yeah,

don't use it.

Because Apple takes the view that, um that anything that happens through an Apple app you get through, like, the app store, is like they have a certain, they take a royalty.

They take a hefty percentage of any transaction that goes through that app.

And so while like Patreon always has its cut of any dollar you donate, and there's like, you know, other fees built into that. On top of that usual, that usual haircut that creators have to take, if something's going through Apple, is it like 30%? Is it like a 30% surcharge? 30%. So yeah, so like any dollar,

if you're using the Patreon app through an Apple device and you're like, all right, cool,

I'll support these people. Every dollar you're spending, 30 cents of that is going to Apple.

And I will end. I think in Allie, you might know this better than I do, or Natalie, if you were going to say it.

They just, the default Patreon setting is we pass that cost onto you, the subscriber.

We just raise the rates by 30% so that subscribers eat that.

We would have to like decide to lose that money and go in manually and be like,

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