1038: Todd and Sarah Gale - The Challenges of Attending Church with Accused Sexual Predator Joseph Bishop (Chandler, Arizona) Pt. 2
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
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🗓️ 8 January 2019
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Have you ever wondered what it would be like to attend the same Mormon ward as accused rapist/sexual predator Joseph Bishop?
Todd and Sarah Gale attend the same Mormon ward as Joseph Bishop (in Chandler, Arizona). Last year McKenna Denson shared a recording of her confrontation with Joseph Bishop, who was serving as president of the Provo, Utah Mission Training Center at the time he is accused of sexually assaulting McKenna in the 1980s.
Both share their thoughts and feelings of sharing a ward with Joseph Bishop, and discuss precautions and actions they take to protect their family.
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| 0:48.0 | All right well let's let's jump back into the story then. We're going to now get into the Joseph |
| 0:53.0 | Bishop stuff in depth. So if any of you are willing to share this episode on your walls and just |
| 0:59.6 | let people know we're about to go into the story of what it's like to be active Mormons in the same |
| 1:06.4 | ward as as accused sexual predator Joseph Bishop having your kids pass the sacrament to him having |
| 1:16.0 | seeing him in the Sunday school presidency seeing him not experience church discipline |
| 1:23.0 | all while you see people like Sam Young of the Protect LDS Children Movement getting |
| 1:28.4 | actually communicated. If any of you are willing to share this episode on your walls with friends |
| 1:33.3 | family we'd love to have as many people listen to the stories possible. So please share if you |
| 1:39.9 | can and thanks to everyone who's shared it so far. All right so Todd let's talk let's just jump |
| 1:45.5 | into the Joseph Bishop stuff now. So according your story you will have been questioning your faith |
| 1:51.9 | for a couple years trying to communicate that with Sarah ineffectively and your marriage is getting |
| 1:59.2 | tougher and tougher tougher. Let's talk about the day you learned about Joseph Bishop. |
| 2:07.7 | And how you learned about it and what that was like what you learned and what that was like. |
| 2:13.3 | Sure are people who have never heard of Joseph Bishop so we want you to give background |
| 2:18.2 | for those who haven't heard. So Joseph Bishop is a... We'll start with how you heard. |
| 2:24.8 | To start with how you heard. So I've on Facebook I think it was it was Ryan McNight shared |
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