#1031 - Macken Murphy - 18 Harsh Realities of Modern Dating

Modern Wisdom

Chris Williamson

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 4.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 161 minutes

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Macken Murphy is an evolutionary biologist at the University of Melbourne, a writer and a podcaster. Modern dating is in the middle of a cultural reset. Attraction science is evolving, men and women are changing how they show up, and everyone is trying to build healthier relationships. What does the data actually say, and is a more balanced way of dating within reach? Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get a free bottle of D3K2, a Welcome Kit, Travel Packs, plus bonus gifts (US only) when you first subscribe at https://ag1.info/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom New pricing since recording: Function is now just $365, plus get $25 off at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Your area of expertise, penis size preferences, what's happening?
0:05.7	Are we talking about women's penis size preferences?
0:08.3	Yeah, sure.
0:09.1	Okay, so slightly far afield of my expertise.
0:13.2	Yeah, yeah.
0:13.7	Okay, so women's penis size preferences are a bit of an emotional roller coaster, I think,
0:20.6	for the men listening.
0:23.3	Because when I have the experience of presenting on this topic,
0:27.8	what I see is kind of a crescendo of, oh, that sounds really good to realizing it's not as good as it sounds.
0:33.9	So the best study on this subject comes from Proust and colleagues.
0:38.6	And what they looked at was women interacting with real 3D models of various penis-shaped objects, cylinders essentially,
0:53.5	and had them pick and choose which one they actually
0:57.5	favored. And the reason that this study design is more powerful than just asking women, you know,
1:02.5	what size do you prefer? The reason that this is powerful is because it gets around issues of
1:09.2	misreporting due to not knowing how big or small
1:13.6	given size is. How many times has someone said, I think that's about six inches from the left,
1:18.0	isn't it? You know, when you're trying to put a picture up or something, you have no idea how big six inches.
1:21.6	And when we're dealing with things that, you know, are all things considered on the scale of like
1:26.3	couches and cars and things relatively small, you know, an inch off considered on the scale of like couches and cars and things relatively
1:28.0	small, you know, an inch off, that's 20 to 15%. Also, they're not judging their penis preference
1:36.7	based on how big it is to look at, which is what you would be doing, or in terms of memory,
1:42.0	you would be doing it based on feel. Right, exactly. So that's a
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