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103: Gregory Copley Gregory Copley discusses the US military presence off Venezuela, noting President Trump seeks a negotiated outcome with Maduro to avoid long-term intervention,

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🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Gregory Copley
Gregory Copley discusses the US military presence off Venezuela, noting President Trump seeks a negotiated outcome with Maduro to avoid long-term intervention, 

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.4

This is CBS Eye on the World. I'm John Batchel, joined by my mentor and colleague Gregory

0:18.6

Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs, in addition to the author of the new book,

0:22.7

Noble State. We begin with, we march to the sound of dynamite. We march to the sound of gunfire.

0:30.5

We march to the sound of right now the threat of gunfire and dynamite in the Caribbean and the

0:36.4

Pacific and the Atlantic.

0:38.4

There is a very strong fleet off the shore of Venezuela.

0:42.5

In addition, we're told there's a marine expeditionary unit capable of extraction and action.

0:48.3

There are Air Force elements in these last weeks, B-2s, B-52s, F-35s. In other words, there's enough to take on the planet Mars.

0:58.8

The mission looks to be Caracas and Maduro, the illegitimate dictator of Venezuela, who is also

1:06.6

the head of a drug cartel called the Cartel of the Sons. The President of the United States has

1:12.1

directed all these elements in place, and they're practicing now, a takeover of the government

1:17.0

and a removal of Maduro. They're practicing so that they don't know the difference between a go

1:23.1

order and try it again today. We'll do it better. This is modern warfare completely under the control of the President of United States.

1:33.6

And then, in what is not a surprise when you're dealing with somebody as clever at contract negotiations as President Trump,

1:42.8

over the weekend, the president indicated, I haven't made up my mind

1:46.6

yet, sort of, I have. And then he mentions talking, whether it's Maduro asking to talk or whether

1:53.0

it's Trump telling Maduro to ask to talk. We're unclear. But in any event, that is not gunfire.

1:58.5

That is not dynamite. That is not takeover of a country.

2:02.0

That's a man talking about his future.

2:05.3

Gregory, a very good evening to you.

2:06.8

The Venezuela case could have been reproduced any time in the last couple of centuries.

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