Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

And I'm Sasha Iad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we probe the gender landscape within contemporary culture.

And we consider the implications of prioritizing personal identity over other aspects of the self.

This is the thinking person's take on gender.

Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.

Hello lovely to see you, Miss. a wider lens.

Hello lovely to see you Miss Stella. Hello there my darling.

It's it's great to be having an episode together where you and I are chatting.

I always think that's really, it feels like we're back home.

Yeah, no, I love these episodes.

It's really engaging and interesting and they always go in fun directions but but before we get to that what is going on in the life of Stella O'Malley?

Loads, loads, so much so my head is spinning. I think what's really I suppose really on my mind at the moment is me and you and

Lisa Marchiano are finishing the edits of our book and the edits the book, I know. Let me use our cool sound effects. Hold on. Can you say that again?

Okay, we're coming to the close of the edits of our book.

Oh, crap.

I can't find it next time.

All right, imagine there's clapping.

Woo!

Okay.

So it's a very interesting time because I think I'd say editors don't like me because when I get the, I've had a few books, I've written a few books and when I get the edits I input a lot.

Well I think I'm meant to only kind of do little bits and pieces. I'm like oh no this would be much better and I actually just so you know such I moved an entire chapter of mine from one place to another.

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