I'm John Batchel with my good colleague, Mary Kistel, Executive Vice President Stevenson

Incorporated, former senior advisor to the Secretary of State, Mr. Pompeo, and many years in Asia for the

Wall Street Journal editorial page in Hong Kong, traveling throughout Asia. The dilemma with China, negotiating with China at the same time knowing that it is responsible,

the Chinese Communist Party is responsible in taking profits from poison, narco-terrorism,

not only with fentanyl, as has been established by the Trump administration, repeatedly requiring

China to stop the precursor shipment from China's manufacturers to Mexican labs that are turned

into fentanyl to poison Americans, in fact, poison the Americas, but also I learned methamphetamine,

an older poison that is very popular

throughout Asia coming in to the U.S. in the same drug trade routes made in Myanmar with the

complete endorsement and protection of the Chinese Communist Party. In other words, China is a trading partner at the same time.

It's a drug lord. Mary, what is the dilemma? Do we continue to treat China as legitimate power at the

WTO, a rising superpower, or do we regard it what it is, which is a narco-terror state?

Well, the U.S. government under Republican and Democrat administrations has not declared

China an enemy. They may say that it's an adversary colloquially, but officially it's not

an enemy. And so we're in this very odd policy space where we're supposed to do deals with them on

the one hand, but then, you know, build up our militaries and confront them on the other. It's all,

it's all very confused. They are an enemy. They consider us an enemy. We should consider them an

enemy. Fentanyl and other forms of drug trafficking is a tool of their state that they use against ordinary Americans, tens of thousands of people.

Die of fentanyl poisoning every year.

China could stop that.

If they wanted to stop the export precursors, they choose not to because they see it's an effective tool.

They see us reacting to it.

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