102. Why We Deserve a Fair Criminal Justice System with Jason Flom

Here's Where It Gets Interesting

Sharon McMahon

Government, History, Storytelling, Education

4.9 • 15.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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In this episode, Sharon hears from Jason Flom, a successful record label executive who followed his passion into working for criminal justice reform. After reading about a young man’s conviction where the crime did not fit the punishment, Flom rolled up his sleeves and began working to help overturn wrongful convictions and change criminal justice policies and practices through the Innocence Project. He is a founding board member and deeply committed to the mission of the project. Jason addresses what we can do to address the issue of how the general public can help keep innocent people out of jail, and his answers may surprise you.

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0:00.0	Hey friends, thank you for joining me today. I am chatting with Jason Flum, who is a long time highly
0:07.1	successful music industry executive. He signed artists from Katy Perry to Lorde to Stone Temple
0:13.2	Pilots, but his real passion is on the criminal justice system. In fact, he hosts a highly successful
0:22.0	podcast called Rungful Conviction. On his podcast, he's had guests like Brendan Dassy and John
0:28.7	Grisham and Kim Kardashian, and he is also a founding member of the Innocence Project, which seeks
0:35.4	to overturn the convictions of people who have been wrongfully accused. So let's dive into this
0:41.7	fascinating conversation with Jason Flum. I'm Sharon McMahon, and welcome to the Sharon Says So
0:49.1	Podcast. Jason, I am absolutely delighted to have you here today. There is so much to talk about,
0:55.9	and I am really grateful for your time. Well, thank you Sharon. I'm thrilled to be here and
1:00.8	looking forward to a lively discussion. Tell everybody, first of all, you have what an interesting
1:07.3	career you have had at currently have. Tell everybody a little bit more about your background,
1:12.6	what you do, and what you're involved with now. Sure, I do have a very strange double life,
1:17.8	I guess you could say, which is that my career since I was 18 years old has been in the music
1:23.3	business. I started off putting up posters and record stores and Atlantic records for $4
1:28.4	an hour, which I thought was the greatest job in the world that ended up becoming the chairman
1:31.3	and CEO of the company. Signed a lot of wonderful artists over the years, many of which you and
1:36.7	your audience probably have enjoyed. I hope. And about 30 years ago, 29 years ago now, I found my
1:45.0	call my calling, which is reforming the criminal justice system, ending mass incarceration,
1:51.3	eliminating mandatory sentencing laws, decriminalizing marijuana and other drugs, and I guess the center
1:59.3	to sort of blowing orb from which most of my work emanates is the Innocence Project. I am the
2:04.7	founding board member of the Innocence Project, which is an organization that utilizes DNA
2:11.3	true science to get people out of prison who were innocent of the crimes that put them in there
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