Hey, listeners, it's Mishi.

So, as you know, during these incredibly difficult days, we're trying to bring you voices we're hearing among and around us.

These aren't stories, they're just quick conversations or postcards, really, that try to capture slivers of life right now.

We're obviously not the only ones doing this kind of work.

Go to our website, IsraelStory.org, for a list of other projects,

collecting wartime stories and testimonies.

You know, this war has forced many people who thought their identity and political sensibilities were set in stone to reevaluate things.

And that's especially hard because there isn't that much space for complexity and nuance in these raw moments of shock and pain.

Today, however, we'll hear from someone whose opinions are complicated, aren't the norm.

And that might be challenging for some or reassuring for others.

In any event, here's our producer, Adina Karpoch, with Moore Meisel.

So can you start by introducing yourself?

Sure. My name is More Meisel. I'm 37 years old. I was born in Tel Aviv, but grew up in

Canada and currently live in Ephraat, in the West Bank. I grew up in a home that is Islamophobic, homophobic,

very afraid of the unknown, very afraid of the other. And that kind of mindset in a very

homogenous bubble of everybody thinking the same thing turns into hatred.

When I moved to Israel, I was 18 years old. I had finished high school.

And one of the things my mother told me is, be careful of the Arabs, they have blue eyes.

Which means they'll buy you with flowers and with nice

words and with, you know, and to me it wasn't even relevant because I wasn't even like thinking

about Arabs in that way. I only thought about them any time there was a war. That narrative,

it lasted and it made sense until it didn't make sense anymore.

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