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Modern Wisdom

#1012 - Alex O’Connor & Joe Folley - Is Being Smart Worth the Depression?

Modern Wisdom

Chris Williamson

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.74.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Alex O’Connor is a YouTuber, writer and a podcaster. Joe Folley is a philosopher, writer, and host of the Unsolicited Advice YouTube channel. Philosophy has spent thousands of years trying to teach us how to live well. But the deeper you go, the darker it gets. So what’s the point? What can we take from all that heaviness, and how do we find beauty in the darkness to make our own lives better? Expect to learn if philosophy always meant to be practically applicable, or if that is that a modern reinterpretation, which ancient schools have been most unfairly ignored, which branches of philosophy should be jettisoned entirely, why everyone hate philosophy of mind, the differences between academic and practical philosophy, the darkest philosophies you’ve probably never heard of, why modern discourse always feel ironic and why no one speaks earnestly any more and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D, and more from AG1 at https://ag1.info/modernwisdom Get $100 off the best bloodwork analysis in America at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Timestamps: (0:00) Can Philosophy Actually Help You Live Better? (6:04) Is Modern Philosophy Trying to Be Too Intellectual? (11:44) What Do Philosophers Often Overlook? (22:35) Why Philosophy Can Feel a Bit Depressing (33:41) Is Life Worth Living? (44:47) Why Context Matters in Understanding Philosophers (54:24) Why is There Growing Interest in Panpsychism? (01:08:40) Is Consciousness Unified? (01:23:59) Emotivism 101: The Morality of Emotion (01:29:03) Is Morality Just Vibes? (01:40:59) Emotivism and the Incest Question (01:49:05) Do Philosophy Influencers Have a Moral Duty? Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Was philosophy always meant to be practically applicable, or is that some modern reinterpretation?

0:06.0

Ah, that's a joke question.

0:08.0

Ah, well, I mean, I suppose one of the differences between, like very broadly speaking,

0:13.0

between something like ancient Greek philosophy, say, and the way that we conceive of philosophy today is that

0:19.0

in a philosophy today is largely thought of in terms of different fields. You've got your kind of epistemologists who discuss questions like, you know, what is knowledge and, you know, more importantly, how do we, how do we attain knowledge? What are the kinds of systems and processes that produce reliable knowledge, that kind of stuff? And then there are kind of ethicists talking about, you know, what is the good life, you know, vitally important question. Also, you know, what are the right things to do?

0:40.6

And then you've got kind of logicians talking about, you do a lot of proofs and try to

0:45.0

often model ordinary things using formal mathematical or at least semi-mathematical systems.

0:52.2

You've got philosophers of language, philosophy science. But suddenly, in the ancient world, these weren't as differentiated

0:59.3

certainly as they are today. And so, you know, Aristotle wrote different treatises on these

1:05.0

different topics. But even in his philosophy, everything is so interlinked. And if you go back before Aristotle, it's very,

1:14.6

very hard to separate you. So, for example, the Stoics, although, you know, in kind of popular

1:20.5

discourse around Stoicism today, we talk a lot about Stoic ethics. The Stoics thought that their ethics

1:25.9

fell out of their metaphysics and their logic which was

1:28.8

their word for what we would call today things like logic and epistemology and um so i think that's

1:33.9

that's um that's one major difference in terms of practicality i mean yeah the a lot of ancient

1:39.1

philosophy is incredibly practical you know these are especially you know the the one of the paramount

1:45.5

questions that are asked that's asked by almost every are, especially, you know, the, one of the paramount questions that are asked,

1:49.6

that's asked by almost every ancient philosopher is, you know, how to live a good life. The, the first philosopher, like in, like, received wisdom is Thaley's, is a kind of ancient,

1:58.0

ancient Greek philosopher. But before that, there, there are lots of, we have scraps of like ancient Egyptian philosophies and things like that.

2:08.0

And they're often concerned with, you know, what's the good life? How do we live it?

2:12.0

Sirai, I think philosophy is eminently practical.

2:14.7

I also think, you know, maybe this is just my own bias.

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