This episode contains conversations around suicide and self-harm.

Listener discretion is advised. Well, welcome to shaken and disturbed everyone.

As always, I'm Darren Carp, Mama. No, Daddy Cat. You are Daddy Cat. How dare you take my title like that? I could, I totally appropriated you, and I'm so sorry. Here with John Thrash, your Mama Bear, as always. And how you doing, Johnny Boy? Well, I was doing well, but I think, you know, we addressed this on our NMR episode that's on Patreon right now.

You can go and listen to that.

If you guys are signed up.

If you're not, now's a good time to sign up.

But last week's episode, you know, grandfather cat, aka your mom.

Yep.

Yes.

Yes.

Gave us some details that my, that the show did not upload correctly.

We can't have that.

I know.

We can't have that.

We cannot make her mad.

I just want to make a statement that I did everything right on my end.

There was some sort of uploading glitch with our server and it only uploaded the first 19 minutes. It was fixed by, I think, 11 a.m. Eastern time that morning and I definitely apologize. It's really not good enough for my mom. I know. I wanted to know how is your mom doing with the bad news. Thanks for taking accountability. Thanks. Yeah, you're welcome. It's my New Year's resolution. Yeah, I know. I can tell. No, she's totally fine. And we thank you guys out there on our Facebook for actually letting us know. We really always appreciate that. And by the way, we have to let you guys know because we appreciate you. If you are part of our truly disturbed and super fan levels of Patreon, one, thank you. And two, we are doing our first live stream of 2023, January 19th at 7.30 Eastern Standard Time. And, you know, you don't have to be on camera for it. You could always just like not be on camera and participate or hang out and listen to anything that you guys kind of want to talk about. It's really fun. It's intimate and we always have like a really nice time and it's just like a nice way to kind of like end your day or start your evening in any sort of way depending on what coast you're in. Yeah, that's why we did 730 because a lot of you got, we feel like even that 30 minutes can maybe help some of you guys who might be on too late or too early so we are open to feedback if there's a certain time of the night that you want us to do it let us know on patreon or beyond yeah and if you haven't signed up for patreon you can join us um in the show notes or to go to patreon.com slash shaken and disturbed, all one word.

And again, you do have to sign up for the superfan or the truly disturbed levels to get an invite.

And we send the invite out about 30 minutes before the live stream starts.

So it's a lot of fun.

Usually there's like 20 to 30, sometimes 40 people in there. And we're playing games. We're going to do that again this month. We'll do some giveaways. You might win some shaken and disturbed merch. Who knows? Yes, absolutely. And maybe we'll have an update on all the gifts that are being sent out. We will, hopefully they'll be sent by then,

but yes, we will be. Well, let's get into today's case, John. Why don't you kick us off. Yeah,

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