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#1009 - Bugzy Malone - Harsh Lessons in Unorthodox Strategy

Modern Wisdom

Chris Williamson

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.74.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 152 minutes

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Summary

Bugzy Malone is a British rapper, actor, and entrepreneur from Manchester, England. From gang life to greatness, Bugzy Malone’s rise is a story of struggle, survival, and self-belief. As one of the most defining voices in UK rap, his journey is equal parts pain and power. Expect to learn why being a role model takes it’s toll on some people, the life altering accident that changed Bugzy forever, how Bugzy deals with pressure, fame and his recent tussle with his ego, how to stay hungry even after you achieved your goals, the story of Bugzy’s upbringing and how it shaped him as a person and an artist, what it was like for Bugzy to work with Guy Ritchie, how Bugzy survived an armed robbery and lived to tell about it, and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get $100 off the best bloodwork analysis in America at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D, and more from AG1 at https://ag1.info/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Timestamps: (0:00) Pressure is a Privilege (6:48) Surviving Chaos (14:38) We’re Not Alone (19:28) Bugzy’s Crash Was the Wake Up Call He Needed (31:07) Was Guy Ritchie the Key to Recovery? (37:03) Motivation is Constantly Evolving (49:01) How Resilience Kept Bugzy Alive (58:23) What Has Bugzy Learnt from Guy Ritchie? (01:01:24) Money Can Only Take You So Far (01:13:54) Is Fame a Cage? (01:25:04) Why We Should Focus on the Fundamentals (01:29:57) Fame Controls Perceptions (01:37:10) Diving into the Chaos of the Robbery (01:50:28) Fighting Through Life’s Tests (01:55:21) Where Bugzy Finds Inspiration (02:01:32) What Was the Turning Point? (02:14:55) Is Rap Beef Genuine? (02:19:21) Self-Belief is the First Step Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You've got a line that says being a role model is taking its toll. Yeah. How so? How does being a role model take its toll? What song is that from now? That's a freestyle. It's from the Charlie Sloth original 10 years ago. Sorry, no, it's from the second one that you did or the most recent one. It's from number two or number three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Being a role model is taking its toll.

0:22.0

I mean, look, so, as I was just telling you there off camera, I've just not long come back

0:27.3

from Miami.

0:28.7

And I've been, I'm flirting with the idea of writing something, a bit of a book.

0:34.7

And I get this message off a woman woman and she's like um you know my my eight-year-old

0:43.6

autistic son wrote today in school that you're his superhero and flipping sat there in this

0:51.8

little quirky hotel room that's got like a record player and like Bob Marley records and stuff.

0:57.0

And I decided to just, you know, get her contact and give her a ring.

1:02.0

They've actually came to like meet and greets before to meet me.

1:05.0

And I just wanted to speak to her about it and just see what it is that these kids and these,

1:11.9

you know, people in general, you know,

1:15.1

seeing me and where they're actually taking strength.

1:18.3

So I guess when you understand that things like that are going on,

1:22.5

you start to take your job description more serious because you know people are,

1:27.4

some people are living by the

1:28.8

things that you say you know and I find it keeps me sharp through an additional type of pressure

1:35.5

that comes along with that it's kind of one that you didn't ask for right it's a byproduct of doing

1:39.2

what you do it's a a beautiful benefit but it's a huge cost as well yeah i think so um and actually i think i

1:46.7

appreciate the pressure because it's this weird like paradox right of like you want to be the

1:52.8

best version of you you know you want to grow into this individual that you see yourself being

1:58.8

but without the pressure it's too easy to just not do it. You know, I'm running off not much sleep today. I've been to the gym, I've been boxing. But the pressure of knowing I've got this, and I've got the things I've got coming next, means that I'll keep rolling. Keeps you sharp. Yeah. If I didn't have them things, I'd have for sure laid in bed today.

2:18.2

There's a bodybuilder called Chris Bumstead, and he was sat in that seat yesterday.

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