1007: We Love You, Boomers — Seriously! | Secret Podcast

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.9 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Sarah and JVL defend the honor of Baby Boomer protestors and debate the merits of anti-fascist sandwich throwing before hunkering down for a loooong conversation about whether Trumpism is a perversion of conservatism, or a fulfillment of it.

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0:00.0	Hello, everyone. This is Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark. If you guys love the next level
0:06.8	with me, Tim, and JVL, we think you're going to like The Secret Podcast. It's a show that JVL and I do
0:15.3	every Friday, but it is behind the paywall. And one of the reasons we do the secret podcast is it's one of the only products here
0:26.7	at the bulwark that we ask people to pay for.
0:29.8	It's what you get if you're a bulwark plus subscriber or if you subscribe to this feed
0:34.8	on Apple podcasts.
0:37.3	It's an interesting show.
0:38.3	JVL and I,
0:39.0	we fight about our worldview.
0:41.5	Are the voters good or bad?
0:43.7	We go deep on the issues of the day.
0:46.1	We often talk through what we're thinking.
0:49.0	We don't just tell you what we're sure we're thinking,
0:51.2	but we wrestle with the ideas.
0:53.1	We wrestle with each other. So,
0:55.4	come join us.
0:59.4	Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark.
1:06.4	I'll do the head pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Happy Friday, Sarah. I am coming to you from my North
1:13.9	Kakalaki satellite office. I haven't decorated it yet. That's okay. When we were doing
1:19.0	T&L, I was like, JVL, are you in a hostage situation? You were just like, I'm not in a
1:22.7	hostage situation. I didn't mean that. I was just, I was, this was a very hard week for me
1:27.4	with re-entry. I would say after a week of mean it. I was just, I was, this was a very hard week for me with reentry.
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