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Jason Waller here true underdog podcast underdogs out there. I have got a show for you. Bam I'm talking excitement

Inspiration motivation. We have got an entrepreneur women in power free thinker business coach author speaker and TV

Commentator Ali Brown. How are you doing? I'm good. Can you send over your energy drink or whatever you're on because I need that right now. Oh, well, usually it's water, but then I do. Okay.

Energy and energy drink. I would. Bam. I got to create one. We should we should find a way. Bam energy drinks. Yeah, keep in your purse. You know,

I've converted from normal energy drinks to coffee and then I keep flipping back and forth. I don't know which one does better.

I'm still struggling to figure that out. What about you? What do you prefer? I can sneak the shots in my purse and I even did

them when I was pregnant, which is terrible, but like because when I was dragging through some meetings, so my kids have a lot of energy though. They're great. Yeah, well, we

were just talking about kids. You have twins. So that's that's juggling, right? That's tough. It's been quite a year, too, because I'll tell you, you just we just woke up to a lot of

things about parenting, the world, everything and the kids are the kids are amazing because they help you realize what's what's really important and get focused.

Well, thank you to talking about childhood, Ali. It's an honor to have you on the show. I appreciate it. Let's go all the way back to the beginning. Your proud native of Connecticut. Talk about where it all started at your childhood. Go.

Yeah, I grew up in a small town called Monroe. It's probably not that small anymore, but you know, I had a good childhood. I'm not going to hide that. I had a, you know, nice family.

Nice upbringing. I think I started going bazonkers at like high school and looking back, I think the reason I was just getting so restless. Looking back now, I realized I was bored. I couldn't see it at the time. And back then, there weren't other options for, you know, entrepreneurial kids are super creative kids. You were at your public school.

And you were in the box. And looking back now, I'm just like, oh, wow, I wonder if I'd had the chance to start a business or someone said, listen, I can tell you're restless. Let's get you in this other program where you're using your creativity.

But, you know, instead I, I partied. I knew I knew how to play the game. No, I still made on a role and did all that. And, but I kept thinking, God, I can't wait to get out of here.

And then I get out, right, and I go to school in Boston. And, and I get out into the real world. And then I'm thinking, I can't wait to get out of here. Is this it? Like, is this what it is? I wanted the corner office. I thought I wanted this, you know, fancy job. I remember watching this movie, you know, those 80s business movies with the high rises in New York and, and everyone was dressed cool. And I'm like, oh, I want that. And so, you know, I got into my first job and then second job and then third job and then fourth job. And, and I always did a good, I did a good job.

I liked, you know, being around people. And I always did my best, but I was, I was just going crazy. I had no idea it was wrong with me. The last job I was in, though, was, gosh, about 1998, I would say I was working this little ad agency in New York. And I loved this place because owners were out all the time. And I got to kind of like run the company.

And here I was at the time. I'm a 25-ish. I'm like, I do the math right now. But at that, I mean, I got to do everything from the client call, say, look, we didn't get that on time. I would jump on the computer and figure it out. And then call the owner and then figure that, like, I actually love that. I love that.

And, um, had a bit of awakening working for myself when there was a freelancer that they hired that came in and out in his own schedule.

I found out made more money than I did. And I knew I was smarter. And this guy was really nice. So I still listen to Eric. Can I buy a cup of Duncan, right? It's where we go across the street in New York.

And I said, how do you do this? How do you work for yourself, but still work for agencies? Because I like the agencies, but I don't want to work here and sit in this cue ball day. And I'd love to do what you do.

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