10 Years Of A Gay and A NonGay: The London Patient: A Cure for HIV?

A Gay and A NonGay

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🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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This is a re-release celebrating a decade of love and allyship on A Gay And A NonGay. This week we're throwing it back to May 2020... We've heard about 'expendable' populations before, but last time they meant gay people. 32 million people have died of AIDS related illnesses since the 1980s and in 2018, 770,000 people died worldwide because of the virus. The London Patient: A Cure For HIV? is the first episode in a brand new two-part series - funded by the Wellcome Trust and the British Podcast Awards Fund. Both episodes were recorded in accordance with government social distancing measures. On this episode, we look at the start of the epidemic, chat to AIDS activist Sir Nick Partridge OBE and head to Oxford to meet Professor John Frater who explains the science behind HIV. Trigger warning: Contains upsetting audio. Incredible advances in medicine now mean that if you are HIV+ and on effective treatment, you can’t pass it on. Undetectable = Untransmittable. And in March 2019, it was revealed that a second person had been cured of HIV - The London Patient. What does the London Patient’s story tell us about a cure for HIV? Plus in the age of Covid19, can the story of HIV and AIDS offer the world any hope? This episode is bought to you with thanks to the ⁠MTV Staying Alive Foundation⁠, the ⁠Terrence Higgins Trust⁠ and the ⁠National AIDS Trust⁠. Follow A Gay & A NonGay TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gaynongay.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email Us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠us@gaynongay.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This re-release is part of a retrospective celebrating 10 years of a gay and non-gay and the big conversations that helped change our world.
0:07.0	Big news guys, representation is here. We're so excited to finally share this with you.
0:12.0	Our brand new merch, the pronoun tea, is out now. It's customizable to however you identify,
0:19.0	they, them, she, her or he, him in either hot pink or silver.
0:23.6	And because it's important to make everyone feel safe and accepted, your preference is highlighted
0:28.7	among a list of everyone's pronouns, making sure that however you identify, everyone is visible.
0:35.1	Go to ganynongay.shop to get yours. 10% goes to Mermaids. Gainongay. Dot shop. A gay and non-gay is a podcast from James Barr and Dan Hudson. Two unlikely friends take on the world. So this is a London patient, a cure for HIV. Well, it's a question, so you've got to go up at the end. So it's a cure for HIV, question mark.
0:55.2	But you don't say the question mark, you just go up.
0:57.4	So it's a cure for HIV, because we don't know at this point whether there's a cure for HIV or not. That's what we're going to find out now. So it's like an Aussie accent. So a cure for HIV. A cure for HIV. Why do all of our documentaries have to have a question mark at the beginning of them?
1:10.7	From gay to non-gay and now a cure for HIV?
1:13.9	Yeah, you didn't get the beginning of them? From gay to non-gay and now a cure for HIV?
1:13.9	Yeah, you didn't get the hang of that one either, did you?
1:15.6	Why can't we make it easy for ourselves and just call it...
1:18.3	I mean, I don't know what we would call it, to be fair.
1:19.8	Well, exactly. So here we go.
1:22.6	Welcome to a gay and a non-gay.
1:34.6	Welcome to the London patient, a cure for HIV.
1:37.9	This is the first of two episodes brought to you,
1:40.3	thanks to funding from the British Podcast Awards Fund and the Welcome Trust.
1:43.9	So we started talking about making some special episodes about the HIV virus last year.
1:48.5	It was a really different world then.
1:50.6	Right now, it's May 2020.
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