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People I (Mostly) Admire

10. Suzanne Gluck: “I'm a Person Who Can Convince Other People to Do Things”

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

She might not be a household name, but Suzanne Gluck is one of the most powerful people in the book industry. Her slush pile is a key entry point to the biggest publishers in the U.S., and the authors she represents have sold more than 100 million books worldwide. Steve Levitt talks with Gluck — his own agent — about negotiating a deal, advising prospective authors, and convincing him to co-write Freakonomics.

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Suzanne Luck is one of my absolute favorite people. I just admire her so much.

0:07.0

When I first met her, I was prepared not to like her. She's a literary agent and she approached me to try to convince me to write a popular book. But I had zero interest in writing a popular book. I mean, I was dead set against it. I only took her call grudgingly out of courtesy. But I have to say, by the time

0:26.6

we hung up 30 minutes later, I was in complete awe of Suzanne, using some sort of black magic that I simply can't explain. She had

0:35.9

convinced me to co-author a book with Stephen Dubner, someone who I barely knew

0:40.4

and I didn't even like. So how much has my admiration grown for Suzanne over the years?

0:45.0

But when my oldest daughters were teenagers, I flew them to New York for a weekend,

0:49.0

the only purpose of which was to have them meet Suzanne

0:52.0

because I just couldn't think

0:53.7

of a better female role model. Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve

0:59.8

Leavitt. Often I'm worried before an interview about whether or go well or not, but with Suzanne, I'm not really

1:07.0

worried because she's so naturally social.

1:09.9

The only shred of concern I have is that she's hardly ever been interviewed before and sometimes people

1:16.4

act really differently when you put a microphone in front of them.

1:19.6

But hopefully that won't be an issue today. Now just to get any conflicts of interest 100% out in the open.

1:33.0

If you had to choose your all-time favorite author among the many authors you've represented,

1:39.0

given that this is my podcast,

1:41.0

and you've represented me for the last 15 years. I'm guessing you would

1:44.7

probably say me right? I'd have to say you and Stephen are tied. I'd have to say that.

1:49.9

Okay that's fair. So I'm cutting aside, let's just make that clear

1:54.4

to anyone who cares about it that you represent me.

1:59.0

And I am a proud client of yours for many years.

2:03.2

Before we do anything, then what's your official job title?

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