There's no aspect of your marriage that isn't spiritual. All of it is Godward. How we speak to each other has to do with how God tells us to speak. The place, the context, what is pure in the marriage bed in sex has to do with how God has given it as a gift. All of it is spiritual.

Do we consistently pray together as a couple beyond meals? And does feel life-giving rather than obligatory?

It's one thing to say, okay, let's pray and then you're only doing it because you know you have

to do it. It's better than not praying. But when you're married and praying for one another,

are you doing it consistently? Is it a part of your regular rhythms of life, your days, a part of your

spiritual walk? Is it something that you recognize

when it hasn't been happening?

Selina, do you think there are areas where we could grow spiritually in our marriage, in our

lives together? Always. Always. Yeah, I mean, what are you

going to say? No, we've reached. We're there, man. We're there. Yeah, always, right. And so

sometimes it's helpful. So I guess you live in your own marriage all the time. And you can, you're so close to it. There's no one closer to your marriage than you and your wife for you and your husband. Right. There shouldn't be. And so sometimes it's hard to see it objectively. Sometimes it's hard to know. You can, so what I'm trying to get at is

you can feel kind of a low level need for improvement. And you don't always know where to start.

You don't always know how to articulate, how to identify the areas you can grow in. And so today,

I think it would be helpful to that end to ask some diagnostic questions.

Yeah.

You need that.

Like you're going to the doctor.

And specifically with respect to the spiritual health and the spiritual flourishment or

shing of your marriage.

So does that sound like a good plan?

All right. You don't know who we are. I'm Ryan. This is Selena. Yep, that's your name. I almost forgot for a second there. That's awkward. I'm kidding. Were you going to say Ryan and then Selena? Yeah, I had to double check in my mind if I was pointing. A guy like you and the girl like me.

We're the Fredericks.

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