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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

1: Why Can't We See?

Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8748 Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

On this introductory episode of Learning How to See, Brian, Jacqui, and Richard talk about two biases that set the stage for all the others: Confirmation Bias: the human brain welcomes information that confirms what it already thinks and resist information that disturbs or contradicts what it already thinks. Complexity Bias: the human brain prefers a simple lie to a complex truth. Resources: The transcript for this episode. Brian's e-book: Why Don't They Get It? Connect with us: We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. Send us an email at podcasts@cac.org Center for Action and Contemplation: Facebook | Instagram | Twitter Brian McLaren: Facebook | Instagram | Twitter Rev. Jacqui Lewis PhD: Facebook | Instagram | Twitter Richard Rohr: Twitter | Sign up for his Daily Meditations here This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

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0:00.0

On August 12th, 2017, I was standing on a corner in a quiet neighborhood in front of a Methodist church.

0:11.5

A white van pulled up, and a man about my age in a Vietnam-era Army fatigue jacket stepped out of the front passenger door.

0:22.1

The side door slid open and nine young white men in khaki pants and sports shirts flowed

0:30.2

out.

0:31.5

They lined up behind the older fellow, unfurled flags, and began to march in two lines as the van pulled away.

0:40.3

Less than ten seconds later, another van pulled up, and the same thing happened.

0:47.3

More young men following one older man, more flags, more marching.

0:52.3

That van pulled away, and within seconds, another came,

0:56.7

and another and another. The flags were Confederate flags. Don't tread on me flags. Flags of various

1:06.5

right-wing militia groups, and yes, there were Nazi flags, too. I never thought in my life

1:13.9

that I would see Nazi flags flying on American soil. I was standing in Charlestville, Virginia

1:22.5

that day, part of a multi-faith clergy witness on the day of the Uniter Right rally that left a young woman,

1:31.3

Heather Heyer, dead, the victim of killing by car. I was just up the street when the murder

1:40.5

happened. I remember the sound of my black leather shoes slapping on the sidewalk

1:46.3

as I and other clergy ran into the chaos of the crowd, helping the injured even before the first

1:53.5

responders arrived. In the days before and after that event, I was given access to the secret communications of the event organizers.

2:04.3

I read posts where they celebrated the murder of this young woman, and where they celebrated our

2:11.5

president for calling them good people. I'll never forget those days, because they taught me on a visceral level something

2:20.2

I cannot unsee. We may live lives in the same country or the same city or even under the same

2:29.9

roof, but we live in different realities, different universes. I saw those young men as

2:40.0

deluded white supremacists, blinded by their ideology, radicalized by radio talk shows, Fox

2:48.4

News, and white nationalist internet sites.

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