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So I was like doing self-reflection and evaluating and realized there's no momentum.

I have nowhere to turn.

I have nowhere else to... I've exhausted all my resources. I don't have anybody else that I can blackmail or bribe or,

you know, guilt into helping me. And it's just, and then I thought about it and I was like,

it's just me and Sue were the only ones that know all of the details. And then I thought, well,

you know, I was getting divorced, so that consumed me for a year and a half. I didn't, I didn't,

Sue called and checked in on me once in a while during my divorce when she found out what was

going on and never brought up the case. She was, case she was she would call to check on me and

um you know she'd cook for me make sure I was eating things like that and um now we never talked

about the case and then after I had I had moved out of the house got divorced and I was going

through some boxes and I had my out of the house, got divorced, and I was going through some boxes, and I had

my, that box.

And my case, my big case with all my info that I compiled on Father Joe, pictures, narratives,

the crime scene photos, autopsy photos, reports from, you know, every phone records, things like that.

And I started thumbing through it thinking, well, I'm bored.

I'll look and see.

Maybe there's something I miss.

There'll be some smoking gun.

This will be like that moment that I'll find something.

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