Welcome to a special edition of the No Dungs podcast. I'm Lee Ellis. I'm here with Tass, Trey,

and the man making the magic happen, JD. If you're an NBA fan, then you're familiar with the

work of our guest today, although you might not know it. He's been in the league since 1984. No, it's not Michael Jordan, although he's worked with MJ thousands of times. The game has been good to him. It's allowed him to travel the world, and he's been to every All-Star weekend and finals since 1986. And everywhere he goes, he always has the best memories because he takes the best photos he is NBA photographer nathaniel butler nat thanks for joining us today oh guys thanks for

having me it's pleasure so nat let's start with what everyone's talking about right now the last

dance because you're in it you're featuring it a couple of times there we see you in those scrums

there and huddles taking photos but also one of your photos is being used as the promotion it's that one where michael and scotty are

just about to dab up there how cool is it to see some of your work used in in a promotion for such a

big event and a big big topic that everyone's talking about right now you know what it's always

exciting to see your your work being utilized

obviously all eyes are on this dock now because of of who it who it is and mj and the and the

bulls the storyline is so compelling every every day every every episode, there's a different storyline.

And it's cool to see our photos used throughout the piece.

I'm sure it's bringing back a lot of memories for you just being around the team and what that time was like.

You know, being around those champions chip celebrations, again, seeing Jordan and Phil and

Scottie and that all together. What was your most favorite memory of that time, or specifically

with Michael? You know what? A difficult question to just have a favorite. I was fortunate enough

to be around for most of those moments.

And you're right, it just brings back a flood of different memories.

For me, it was always fun and I still enjoy it to this day just being a fly on the wall kind of, you know, as a fan.

It's cool listening to the stories in real time.

The guy's rehashing.

And then, you know, to be able to have the opportunity to document things has just been a pleasure

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