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🗓️ 12 August 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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0:00.0 | Just a reminder, tickets for our live show in New York City go on sale today, August 12th. Today, August 12th at 2 p.m. Eastern Time at 9.2N.org. Again, the show is Saturday. October 4th, tickets go on sale when? |
0:14.7 | Today. Today. Today. See you there. We hope. Today. |
0:17.7 | Hello, big picture listeners. For the next few weeks, |
0:24.8 | Sean and I are handing over the feed to a narrative podcast called Mission Accomplished, |
0:28.9 | which chronicles how the movies of the 2000s tell the story of that tumultuous decade, |
0:33.3 | in Hollywood, and in America. It's hosted by a longtime rigor contributor and friend of the pod, Brian Raftery, |
0:39.8 | who you might remember from a few other narrative podcasts we've done, |
0:43.0 | a Hollywood hack, Do We Get to Win This Time, and Gene and Roger? |
0:46.7 | Sean and I will be back in a few weeks. |
0:52.1 | In early 2000, I was given the chance to interview a guy who had no shot of becoming the next |
0:57.0 | president of the United States, George W. Bush. At the time, Bush hadn't yet secured the |
1:05.6 | Republican ticket, but he did have a famous last name, and he spent the last few years as the |
1:10.7 | governor of Texas. |
1:12.2 | On the campaign trail, though, Bush always sounded like he was trying to hide how confused he was. |
1:17.7 | His speeches were full of garbled statements, like, |
1:20.1 | I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. |
1:26.6 | I thought Bush was a goof. |
1:28.9 | And so, as a young journalist, when I got the chance to interview him, and by interview, |
1:34.0 | I mean email some questions to his press team, I didn't ask Bush about his foreign policy |
1:38.4 | plans, or about what he'd do with Social Security, or even about his spotty record as an |
1:43.6 | oil man. |
1:45.9 | Instead, I asked, |
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